Running With Scissors: Dave Tests EvMux

Dave Jackson [00:00:00]:
Ask the podcast coach for July 20, 2024.

Dave Jackson [00:00:08]:
There it is. It's that music. That means it's Saturday. It's time for ask the podcast coach, where you get your pod your podcast questions answered live. I'm we're not gonna do that. Dave Jackson from the school of podcasting.com. And joining me right there is the one and only Jim Collison from the average guy dot tv. How's it going, Jim?

Jim Collison [00:00:30]:
Greetings, Dave. Happy Saturday morning to you. Happy to be back, and a big thanks to Jody who filled in for me last week. I heard she did a bang up job and always appreciate that. So, Jody, thank you for filling in for me.

Dave Jackson [00:00:41]:
Yeah. If if you're like, wow. ECAM looks weird today. It's because we're not using ECAM. And, again, I should say this. It's weird anytime I try something different, they're like, is there some I'm like, I last week, we talked about how I moved. I'm no longer working at Lipson. It was really weird.

Dave Jackson [00:00:57]:
Last week in the show when I said when I used to work at Lipson, I was like, oh, that's the first time I've said that. Yeah. But just because I'm not using ECAM does not mean there's a problem with ECAM. It is more a case where we're a little worried about StreamYard. And so and it reminds me the early days of Ask the Podcast Coach where you just never knew where Jim and Dave were gonna show up, which is why you always wanna go to ask the podcast coach.com/live And that whole 9 years, but we're using a thing called e oh, boy, easy for me to say. Evil evmux. So if I was a branding guy, I'm like, so yeah.

Jim Collison [00:01:34]:
That's a tough name. Yeah. That's a tough name in English.

Dave Jackson [00:01:37]:
Yeah. It's there's a guy in London and a guy in San Francisco that are behind this. And so far, it's kind of like we can do this. I've got a bunch of things set up. Like if we have a 3rd person come in, I've already got it set up. It reminds me a little bit of well, if I wanted to do StreamYard, alright, we've got the, like, totally built in, like, here's this, I can do this. I can do, you know, just these are all kind of built in. Can I can I swap?

Jim Collison [00:02:08]:
Scenes. They're built in.

Dave Jackson [00:02:09]:
They're built in scenes. Yeah.

Jim Collison [00:02:10]:
Kind of switch those around.

Dave Jackson [00:02:12]:
So we can do that. And then much like

Jim Collison [00:02:15]:
We're on the wrong side.

Dave Jackson [00:02:16]:
Oh, that's it. Dogs and cats

Jim Collison [00:02:20]:
living together. It's crazy.

Dave Jackson [00:02:22]:
Whoo. Or you can make scenes like I did with this. And what's fun is we still can do things like, you know, Ralph's in the house and Doctor is here. So we can do I

Jim Collison [00:02:35]:
like these. I like these animations. This is cool.

Dave Jackson [00:02:37]:
Yeah. Kind of fun. That way I can see where they're coming from. Right now, we're just on YouTube, and we are on LinkedIn and that whole 9 yards. And then because I did them last week now there is a problem with these. We can do the little scroller ticky thingies at the bottom, but they only give you 200 characters. And I was like, oh, and since at the bottom of the screen, I'm putting everybody's website. That's a $20 supporter.

Dave Jackson [00:03:06]:
And I ran out of room. So I now have 2 lists. So you you might occasionally see those go across. And then if you're like, hey, I'm not in that. It's like, wait, hold on. I gotta do list number 2, which is a prompt. So it's it's fun. It's somewhat I'm a little more tense than usual when I'm doing the show.

Dave Jackson [00:03:23]:
But, you know, the one thing that can always kind of, you know, I would say calm you down, but it doesn't bring you back to life is, of course, a good old fashioned coffee pour. And that coffee pour is brought to you by our good friend Mark. And yes, there is a slideshow feature. So there's our buddy Mark, and if I wanted to now, it's really easy to add people to the scene. So I'll add Jim over here. And, you know, yes, that coffee pour is brought to you by our good friend Mark over at podcastbranding.co. On the screen right now, you can see there's ask the podcast coach, school of podcasting, podcast rodeo show, your podcast hot seat. I've used him a bunch.

Dave Jackson [00:04:04]:
And if you want either artwork or a logo, and there is a difference between the 2, if you want a full website that looks really pretty, if you go to congressional dish.com, that's an example of Mark's handiwork, and he's a super great guy. He's also a podcaster which makes the whole job so much more easier. And the beauty of it is he's gonna sit down with you 1 on 1, really listen to your show, find out what you're trying to kind of portray to your audience, and make sure that from the minute they see you to the minute they hear you, their your brand's gonna be all in alignment to make sure you get that maximum impact on your audience. So the other thing I always joke about, but it's true. Mark's a great guy, and that's because he's Canadian. He's very, very polite. So check him out podcast branding dotco.

Jim Collison [00:04:54]:
Although our pictures now cover the.

Dave Jackson [00:04:56]:
Yeah.

Jim Collison [00:04:57]:
The, the piece there. Big thanks to our good friend, Dan Lefebvre, over there based on true story podcast. You could drop Chris' comment too.

Dave Jackson [00:05:03]:
I am trying to be like, where is that?

Jim Collison [00:05:06]:
Where are things? The wheel. I don't know. Based on a true story, based on a true story podcast.com. This week, and Dan's in our chat room, and, like, Dan, I got some questions for you. So we we you're you covered Napoleon, which I get. Okay? Napoleon, that was a historical guy. But then Men in Black, 3, and Barbie and Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer makes sense.

Jim Collison [00:05:28]:
Barbie and Men in Black? I don't know. So what's about what's that all about, Dan? You can throw that in the chat room if you want to. I don't know how you you govern Men in Black 3 as based on a true story. But maybe maybe going back

Dave Jackson [00:05:41]:
to the, the whole

Jim Collison [00:05:42]:
Area 50 1 thing, whatever, the, the, the anyways, Dan, throw that in chat. Appreciate it. And as always, thanks for your sponsorship.

Dave Jackson [00:05:52]:
Yeah. That would be something I would want to do if as I as I'm playing with this now when I showed Dan, right, so Dan's in the chat room. If I don't click hide, is there I'm trying to see like, is there a way I can I can go in and pin these just like before? I can also put a user in timeout. That's kind of fun. But I

Jim Collison [00:06:13]:
When you, when we went to the commercial, you went away. And then I think that my audio went away too, according to the chat room. So, I'm sure it'll be in the recording. But but Interesting. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:06:27]:
Yeah. Because you were off the screen. That's true. Interesting. Yeah. So Doctor says I know. Wow. That makes it very small, though.

Dave Jackson [00:06:36]:
Their their comments are like holy cow. Install mate. On the other day, I see some stuff that she likes. So, yeah, I am yes. I am running with scissors this morning. It's kind of fun. Danny's in the room here making breakfast for the family. So it's it's it's interesting because, yes.

Dave Jackson [00:06:54]:
And it's all this guy's fault right there. The one and only Chris Nesi was the guy when we're talking about StreamYard that said, oh, you should check out Evmux or whatever. And so that's interesting. But it does have a bunch of like apps that you can add. So for instance, we will be doing this later, but they have a built in wheel of names. So, there it is. And they have a couple different versions of, if I can remember how to do this, but you could have, like, I've used I think this is casino mode. And, you know, if I were to spin this now, that's a horrible sound.

Dave Jackson [00:07:31]:
It's I don't know what that's supposed to be. And then it basically shoots you when somebody wins. Yes. Cast ahead dot net. Oh, by the way If

Jim Collison [00:07:40]:
that just didn't scare the crap out of you, that pop was loud.

Dave Jackson [00:07:44]:
Yes. And that reminds me that if we go over to castahead.net, because are you ready for this, Jim? Oh, wow. And Chris has, wait, hold on. There we go. Yes. I wanna make sure it was all we have a new awesome supporter. How cool is that? And I'm trying to share my screen. I don't want to upload things.

Dave Jackson [00:08:11]:
Oh, you know what this is? Okay. So yeah, we can do this. That my friends is the newly designed castahead.net. And there he is the one only Chris Stone. And you can see he produces powerful podcasts. So he's gone.

Jim Collison [00:08:25]:
I don't think it's showing up. I don't think that's showing up on the

Dave Jackson [00:08:28]:
on the thing. Oh, it will in a second. Here, we'll just put it over top of us. There we go.

Jim Collison [00:08:33]:
There we go.

Dave Jackson [00:08:34]:
Who needs to see Jim and Dave? And I that's gonna bug me, The whole comment thing. Because now if you think about it, I Chris's comment and there's nothing on the comment that I can like, I have to go back and find that comment too. So if I think I do this nope. Can I do that? Okay. There we go. Yeah. I maybe Would you

Jim Collison [00:08:57]:
be able to make me a person who could remember in the old days, I used to could be able to turn those on and off with you?

Dave Jackson [00:09:05]:
Yeah. I I need your email because I could make you a collaborator. Because right now, you're just a guest. And but, yeah, that would make life a whole lot easier. Then I would need

Jim Collison [00:09:14]:
then I would need to log in. Right?

Dave Jackson [00:09:16]:
Yeah. So but, yeah, if you need somebody, like, if you've ever seen any shorts on my channel, that's this guy, the one and only Chris Stone from castahead.net. So he's, you know, social media clips. If you need guesting services, I didn't know you did that, Chris. Custom intros, videos. He is a whiz when it comes to video, but he's got a great marketing background. Words in the music business back in the day. You can see there are his pricings depending on what you're looking to have Chris do.

Dave Jackson [00:09:48]:
And I was very happy when I saw that this is a cool site. What did you and of course now I have to look at Chris's site to to scroll. But I'd love to know what he what he built this in. I'm gonna guess of a mentor maybe? Because there's a lot of cool animation. There's Ross Brandt, look at that. People are awesome supporters all together in one file, one shot there.

Jim Collison [00:10:09]:
Love it.

Dave Jackson [00:10:10]:
But, yeah, this looks nice. I know he redesigned it. So check him out. Castahead.net. And now I can, in theory, do you want to remove this from the layer? Yes. I do. The layer. I'm in the layer.

Dave Jackson [00:10:25]:
So Drayton's layer. I I definitely like Ecamm. I have my own box for comments. And I'm not really liking I mean, it's here. I can see it. But it's it's not as handy. We do have a question, which is cool. Let me try one thing here real quick.

Dave Jackson [00:10:42]:
When I star that, I don't know that that does anything for me. Alright. So but we do have a question from the one and only Ralph from ask ralphpodcast.com. And he says, I just listened to chapter 8 of Dave's book. And he mentioned that Patreon does not allow drawings as part of their rules. Yes. Which means in theory, the wheel of names is technically, I think on the borderline, does this sponsor wheel crawling?

Jim Collison [00:11:07]:
Like people drawing things. Why are they, why would they discriminate against artists?

Dave Jackson [00:11:13]:
Yeah. As I was re as I gotcha.

Jim Collison [00:11:16]:
Yeah. Drawings.

Dave Jackson [00:11:17]:
As I was recording chapter 8, it said you're not allowed to have contests as part of Patreon. And I was like, especially if it meant more exposure. And I'm like, well, that's the wheel of names. So yeah, I would say technically, I'm I'm I'm

Jim Collison [00:11:33]:
What are they trying to avoid there? I don't they're, like I don't know. Was it the thing where everybody is like, hey, comment, leave a thing here, leave a thing there. We'll put you in for a drawing for this kind of thing. What, how does that, trying to figure out how does that not benefit them? And why would they not want that in their terms?

Dave Jackson [00:11:52]:
Yeah. Now Randy would say, and Randy, by the way, he's your next week, buddy. If you're like, hey, hey, hey, because we have more than one new sponsor. But I always say we give a big shout out. And so I'm like to have 2 big shout outs is like, nah. Because you're not receiving anything with a monetary value. Yeah. I'd have to go back and read.

Dave Jackson [00:12:12]:
I have to go back and listen. One here. Chapter 8. I will say this. If you ever write a book, and you decide, oh, I'm gonna do an audio book, it's up there with, I don't know, a fork to the eye. It's really, I just keep going on and I'm like, why was I so prolific? Is this chapter not over yet? You know, but it's yeah. It's because it's weird because it's your own words. Okay.

Dave Jackson [00:12:41]:
Here we go. Comparing this to apple, blah, blah, blah, insights from top patron people. And by the way, for the record, oh, if you go to ask the podcast coach.com/awesome, you will see at the bottom, I'm actually now promoting Supercast because the fees are better. But if you're on Patreon, that's fine. I'm gonna have both for a while, which is kind of a headache. But I was like, hey, wait a minute. I can earn 4% more. The last time I checked, you know, don't goals.

Dave Jackson [00:13:12]:
Nope. Here's the goals. Get blown. Isn't it fun listening to Dave find his book? I it's a, you know, embrace your cause, all sorts of fun stuff, Jonathan.

Jim Collison [00:13:22]:
Just just goes to show how much great content is available in there. Right?

Dave Jackson [00:13:29]:
Patreon. Here's let's let's let's do chapter 8 part of this. And see, this is where I gotta go back and turn off Randy. If Patreon and again, let's just say crowdfunding isn't working for you. Did you follow the recommended steps? So, like, when you sign up at these places, there's like, hey, you should make a video for your front page. Well, did you do that? Does it communicate what you do? Does my audience need to take a course to understand how my rewards work? The thing that the other nice thing about Supercast is when you sign up, it gives you a link to listen in Apple or Spotify or whatever. We're Patreon. You have to explain to people that, hey, guess what? You got to copy that and paste it.

Dave Jackson [00:14:08]:
And I know it's in here because I read it and yet I cannot find there's a section that's like, be careful with such and such. And I cannot find that. So we will move on for oh, here we go. With every platform you use, always read the terms. Yes. They're boring, but you want to follow the rules. With Patreon, they state, we do not allow raffles or other games of chance on our platform because we wanna protect creators, patrons, and Patreon. The legality of chance based contents can differ depending on what country or state you live in.

Dave Jackson [00:14:41]:
For instance, in the United States, the IRS views raffles as a form of gaming, a k a gambling. This means not only would a raffle be a subject to legal constraints of gambling nationally, but it also may not even be legal in the state you or your patrons live in. Does this mean you can't have giveaways? Their site states, running other forms of contests on Patreon is allowed as long as they fulfill the following qualifications. Winning the content doesn't depend on luck or chance. So that's a problem. And then secondly, a patrons chance of winning can be increased by paying more money, which is the case, you're only on the wheel if you're $20, likely by pledging at a higher tier. So why that's a problem that that makes it sound like I am having, like, I'm breaking the rules. Because I'm a rebel.

Jim Collison [00:15:33]:
But are they are they talking about running it through their platform? Yeah. In other words, or it being in your audio or video? Right. I mean, if there's no mention of it in in your, on the platform, because they have lots of tools to contact folks and send things out and come over to Patreon. And if you're a Patreon subscriber, I don't know. That's interesting.

Dave Jackson [00:15:59]:
Yeah. See, Todd says, I do my contest drawings. I don't do it on my Patreon page. I do them in my Discord community.

Jim Collison [00:16:06]:
Yeah. I just kinda wonder if there's a difference. What they're trying to do is keep that away from Patreon, but you can do that as a part of your audio or video

Jim Collison [00:16:16]:
that you

Jim Collison [00:16:17]:
put out there. Do you do you publish? What what do you publish to Patreon

Dave Jackson [00:16:21]:
Well

Jim Collison [00:16:22]:
as far as

Dave Jackson [00:16:24]:
patron Patreon will now get advertising free. Now you'll still get the awesome supporters, but I'm playing because I moved the show to Buzzsprout because and again, there's nothing wrong with Libsyn, but I had dynamic content that I was using in the Lipsyn stuff, and I needed that stuff. So the school of podcasting moved to Captivate and ask the podcast coach moved to Buzzsprout because I want to kick the tires on Buzzsprout. And what I found which was interesting is they have this thing where you can have little little ads if you want them. And for me, it's like a 6 second ad of like, hey, you know, go to ask the podcast coach.com/voice mail if you're listening and can't join us live. Well, what it does, which is good and bad, like, I asked Jodie. I was like, hey, Jodie. Being a voice over person, does this AI stuff have you worried? And as she went to answer, it was like, we'll be right back.

Dave Jackson [00:17:22]:
And then there was a little 6 second ad, and then back to the show. And I was like, so on one hand, that is kind of a good placement. But it was also somewhat annoying, which is, you know, advertising is kind of our Dan says I worked for a company that didn't want drawings or contests because it could get sticky legally. I think that's really the thing. You're when you start doing giveaways, it's kind of a thing. And then Jim Harold from jimherald.com or the paranormal podcast. The reason Patreon prohibited is it would be kind of a lottery. If you have to be, if you have to be a small boarder to play, that means you have to pay money, which makes it a lottery.

Dave Jackson [00:18:01]:
I just wanted a wheel of names, man.

Jim Collison [00:18:03]:
That's I don't I think I think you're gonna be okay if you're running on the show. I think they're trying to avoid it being run on Patreon.

Dave Jackson [00:18:11]:
Yeah. And then when Jim worked in radio, he said that they were very empathetic on that no purchase necessary for any drawings. Yeah, that's true. There you have to have, you know, if I had, I could do a thing in the chat room. I can do that they have a tool where I could add it and say everybody put in hashtag, you know, whatever, Jim's glasses, and I could then give away something, which I don't know that that's I think that's just a Google, Or actually, is that a Google thing or YouTube thing?

Jim Collison [00:18:44]:
What's that?

Dave Jackson [00:18:44]:
That whole hashtag giveaway thing. I know we did that. I think it was a StreamYard thing. So, you know, and then Ralph says, of course, because you know, he's a tax guy. Are you receiving the monetary value of a live read ads, which clearly has some value? Yeah, you are. Because here's what's fun, because I'm now using Buzzsprout for this. If you go listen to last week's episode, where Aviation News Talk was the featured, Max was the featured supporter. And that's now the pre roll.

Dave Jackson [00:19:16]:
I'm not a huge fan of pre rolls, but it's quick. It's like, hey. Today's featured supporter was Max over at aviation news talk dotnetor.com. If you're a pilot, you should go listen. Let's start the show and then you hear ask the podcast coach where where awesome supporters won't get that because I'm uploading it directly to what you call it to Patreon. So I'm a rebel man.

Jim Collison [00:19:38]:
To see the super cast out there or whatever they call it

Dave Jackson [00:19:41]:
I did not. Hold on.

Jim Collison [00:19:42]:
Well, welcome to Earth's stories. Thanks for your York. For your support. Yeah. York from welcome to Earth Stories.

Dave Jackson [00:19:48]:
Well, that's where ECAM when that happens, ECAM automatically stars it and makes a big fuzz.

Jim Collison [00:19:54]:
Is yellow in the in the, in our comments here on the platform if you go all the

Dave Jackson [00:19:59]:
way to the bottom. That here.

Jim Collison [00:20:00]:
Yeah. Yeah. It does it. And then I, of course, I always monitor the YouTube chat just in case someone gets spicy out there. I'll I'll moderate those comments. And and so, York, thanks for that. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:20:13]:
Thank you

Jim Collison [00:20:13]:
very much. Appreciate that. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:20:15]:
And so here, Chris is saying, man, it takes forever for the comment to come up because of all Well,

Jim Collison [00:20:21]:
you got a lot of animation.

Dave Jackson [00:20:22]:
Yeah. Do you think you would be just as successful with all you do if you didn't experiment with all the platforms? What it does, would I be as excited? I think I think maybe not. Because the nice thing about it is now am I going to use this next week now that I've like, kick the tires on it live? No. I really like yeah. I mean Really? Well, I'd

Jim Collison [00:20:45]:
give it because you get better each week. That's a good point. Encourage you to go 4 weeks and then, and then make a decision as opposed to just 1.

Dave Jackson [00:20:52]:
Yeah. Because I'm only halfway down the comments and I'm like, it's. Yeah. But what it does is it gives me information. And so when people go, what should I use? ECAM? Should I use StreamYard? Or should I use Eve Evmux Mux, whatever, Evmux. I can say, well, you know, StreamYard has a little weirdness going on over there. It's a super solid platform, and I hope they don't go away. But it is kind of weird that they took their pricing page down.

Dave Jackson [00:21:19]:
Now that just may be, you know, somebody did a brain fart, took off the page. So but, you know, we decided to apply to decide to play with this. And I, you know, the back end is actually pretty cool. But they need to realize that if you're doing live stuff, the the which is the good news is their support's really responsive.

Jim Collison [00:21:39]:
You you'd get better at this. Like, I I that's why I want you to give it a couple weeks because you'd get better at this the longer you do it. There is, up in the comments, on the comments, which is on the left, where almost everybody puts it on the right, which is kinda interesting. But on the left in the comments, there is a filter. So you can quickly grab the filter and say, show me all the super chats, show me anything I've starred. So you can star these, right? If you hover over them, I think at some point you can put a star on the comments. If you click on I can't, maybe

Dave Jackson [00:22:09]:
I can. I just have comments in a big old list. And, oh, I see you at the bottom. All. Yeah. Can post comments on, but I don't see any kind of there is a private chat. So if I wanna send a note to you.

Jim Collison [00:22:23]:
Yep. To the group, or you could I think it looks like you could send them individually to people. This would be nice. Yesterday, I was doing a podcast in Spanish, and it was not going well. Yeah. The the first the host had problems, and the host's microphone quit. And then the host's Internet went down, and then the guest's Internet started getting flaky. And we I had to keep jumping in, and we were gonna edit it, but then the host's audio was terrible.

Jim Collison [00:22:54]:
And I wanted to send a note to the just the host. Yeah. Like, you know, we're in StreamYard. And I just wanted to send them a note in there and say, I think we should quit and do this another day.

Deep Voice Man [00:23:06]:
Oh, wow.

Jim Collison [00:23:06]:
The universe is not in our favor today. It's listen, it's been the first time in a long time I've had to kind of bail on a podcast. Usually, you know, you can kind of recover from those things and get that figured out. But it was the first time I needed to just bail on it. We did. We bailed on it. I deleted it immediately off of YouTube and said, okay. Let's schedule this again for next month and do it again.

Jim Collison [00:23:30]:
But this gives you some this in the private chat, I think, it looks like it gives me the opportunity to send a a message just to you Yeah. As opposed to broadcasting it to everybody who's in the who's in this.

Dave Jackson [00:23:43]:
Okay. We're gonna test this. So in a second, anyone watching, you shouldn't you'll see my lips move, but you shouldn't be able to hear me because I'm gonna click on this feature that lets me talk to Jim without the audience hearing it, and it's gonna happen in 3, 2. Jim, this is me just talking to you. So can you hear that?

Jim Collison [00:24:04]:
Yeah. That's cool. Okay.

Dave Jackson [00:24:06]:
And in theory, the audience didn't hear that.

Jim Collison [00:24:09]:
I got a visualization on my end too that said you're talking to me.

Dave Jackson [00:24:13]:
So Oh, nice.

Jim Collison [00:24:14]:
You get you get kind of prompted. Oh, they said they did hear it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:24:19]:
And that's where I was like, Okay. Cause otherwise I was, I

Jim Collison [00:24:23]:
was like,

Dave Jackson [00:24:25]:
wow. People went crazy on that. Did you buy anything for Prime Day? Wait, hold on. We got

Dave Jackson [00:24:30]:
to do this.

Dave Jackson [00:24:33]:
There we go. Isn't that fun? Did you do anything? Did you do that? Come on. Yeah. You did what you because Yeah.

Jim Collison [00:24:38]:
So I bought a new outdoor plug for the for my shed. You know, my shed is powered, and I just run a plug out to it. So I bought a new one that I can it's got an app, so I can turn it on. I tied it into home assistant, so I can turn it on. The key is in the summer, super hot. So I can hit from inside the house, I can turn the shut on, the air conditioner comes on automatically, cools the shut down while I'm before I go out there. So I bought one of those. I bought a windsail, sunscreen for the sun

Dave Jackson [00:25:07]:
Oh, nice.

Jim Collison [00:25:08]:
So I can do that. But not not a lot. I almost bought another backup battery because the solar generator prices were so good during Prime Day. By the way, still, I think the best UPS I've ever had is that Bluetti AC 180 that I purchased, and it was 5 normally, $800, 5.49 on Prime Day. I heard a lot of people complaining that they lowered they rose prices just before Prime Day so it could look good. I I didn't see it. I didn't see that happening.

Dave Jackson [00:25:38]:
I've I've yeah. I heard that on a a couple podcasts where they're like, hey. You know, they're quoting, like, list price, and it's 68% off. You're like, wait a minute. It was, you know, a dollar 50 last week. Now it's a dollar, you know? Yeah. Well, it is Amazon and they're not always well trusted.

Dave Jackson [00:25:55]:
I didn't see too many

Jim Collison [00:25:56]:
of those shenanigans. I'm sure there was, but I didn't see too many of them. It's a good time. I these these prime days are a good time, you know. I think someone said in chat, Chris Stone said my mic was $35. It already has too many, or he would have gotten it. Yeah, this is a good time to get a backup mic. It's really good on the technology side.

Jim Collison [00:26:15]:
If you were gonna buy a Kindle or a Fire or any of those kinds of things, those are usually good pricing. Ring door cams

Dave Jackson [00:26:25]:
Yeah.

Jim Collison [00:26:26]:
Because Amazon owns them. You know, some of those kinds of things, the technology bits are usually pretty good. We talked about this on my show on Thursday, this I think the secret to this, if you haven't done this on Amazon yet, load that thing to your so take an item you wanna watch, and there's listen, there's there's things like camel camel camel and honey, and Right. I think Edge has it built in now, slick deals, where it'll tell you the price history so you can kind of see. But I load it into my cart and then I save it for later, which takes it out of the cart, but it keeps it on the page. And then when I'm, you know, every once in a while, I check that page just to see, and Amazon will tell you if the price has gone up or down in the upper header there. So it's not a bad way to kind of keep track of, you know, what your what some items you're keeping your eye on or some of those kinds of things without having to you don't want to use a service to do that. I think Honey, both CamelCamelCamel and Honey will both you can subscribe and say, tell me when the price goes down by a certain percentage.

Jim Collison [00:27:27]:
So that's a way to do it.

Dave Jackson [00:27:28]:
That's handy.

Deep Voice Man [00:27:29]:
Kind of

Jim Collison [00:27:29]:
a way to do it as well. Yeah. If you got I mean, some for some of the big ticket items that you don't need right away, I use this on technology stuff where you're kinda like, well, I'll watch it for the next month or 2, and if the price drops, I've been keeping my eye on 8 bay hard drive enclosures, and those the prices on those went up, and I've been kinda waiting for them to come back down. So just kinda keep them in there, ask ask later? No. Save for later.

Dave Jackson [00:27:54]:
Okay. So we have oh, wait. This is where I can do this because we do have fun filled stuff. I could go, oh, Jim. We have somebody that's

Jim Collison [00:28:04]:
joining Somebody's at the door, Dave.

Dave Jackson [00:28:05]:
At the door, Dave.

Jim Collison [00:28:06]:
I'm running.

Dave Jackson [00:28:07]:
So if I go

Jim Collison [00:28:08]:
get it.

Dave Jackson [00:28:08]:
If I go here and okay. So we're here. Can I just drag Chris? I cannot drag. So I have to okay. So if I add scene, see this, this is Chris, but that's not what we want. So I can go I

Jim Collison [00:28:22]:
can't take Chris.

Dave Jackson [00:28:23]:
Yeah. So I can go I can go remove him from the layer.

Jim Collison [00:28:26]:
It'll figure out Oh,

Dave Jackson [00:28:27]:
and that's it. I I have my fake me, and now I can go replace there he is. See? Little learning curve, running with scissors.

Dave Jackson [00:28:37]:
Chris, how are

Dave Jackson [00:28:37]:
you, buddy? Gentlemen.

Deep Voice Man [00:28:38]:
I'm good. How are you guys?

Dave Jackson [00:28:39]:
Good. Now you use this. Right? On a or or you have used it in the past. Right?

Deep Voice Man [00:28:44]:
I have used it. And I figured since I got you in this mess, I might as well come and be part of it

Jim Collison [00:28:47]:
for a

Dave Jackson [00:28:47]:
little bit. Well, here's the thing I just realized. They do have a cool feature where, like, I I've said already that the comment, you know, text is a little small for me. But they do have a magnifying glass. The thing I haven't figured out, like I have a comment here from Jeff, where he says I got a vacuum cleaner and bamboo squatty potty. Wow. There's a phrase I haven't said in a while. But I it's starred, but I don't know.

Dave Jackson [00:29:12]:
Usually, like, in Ecamm, when you star a comment, I can then say, show me just the starred ones.

Jim Collison [00:29:18]:
And you can do that in the filter. There's a search above it.

Dave Jackson [00:29:21]:
I see sir filter. There there we go.

Jim Collison [00:29:25]:
There it is. I was trying to tell you that earlier.

Dave Jackson [00:29:27]:
I just

Jim Collison [00:29:28]:
not have explained it.

Dave Jackson [00:29:29]:
Well, you did. And I was like, I don't and then I I didn't see the little picture of the filter.

Jim Collison [00:29:33]:
Oh, well. Sorry.

Dave Jackson [00:29:35]:
So now I can go show all. Alright. There we go. So

Jim Collison [00:29:40]:
Chris, any, like, the this it is kind of different that the chat is on the left because it seems like everybody else puts it over to the right in the platform. Anything any other oddities like that that you saw in there? Were dark mode supported and some of those kinds of things? But any other your thoughts on it?

Deep Voice Man [00:29:56]:
No. It I mean, from using StreamYard, this is very similar to just you can kinda get up and running. I'm not entirely happy with some of the back end setup for creating your streams or your broadcast or your recordings. I think it's a little cumbersome to do multiple steps whereas with StreamYard, you can just go live or you can just record something. So that that's really just the back end, but the on screen, I like the animations. I think some of the on screen graphics they give you are a little bit cleaner. I can see that because there's no Evmux, and that's how I

Jim Collison [00:30:31]:
say it.

Deep Voice Man [00:30:31]:
So I mean

Dave Jackson [00:30:31]:
EV mux. EV mux.

Deep Voice Man [00:30:35]:
Like, Dave, you clearly got a free trial, or you've paid a little bit of money No.

Dave Jackson [00:30:38]:
I paid for a month. Yeah.

Deep Voice Man [00:30:40]:
Paid for the month. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:30:41]:
And I was like, alright. But I like the fact that see, this could be handy because, like, right now, I just made a thing about you. But if I wanted to, I could say, you know, talking about Evmux or something like that to to if I wanted to have a

Deep Voice Man [00:30:55]:
Now was there something where because, like, I put my name in and I put in House of Edtech as my podcast. Is there a way to bring up what I

Dave Jackson [00:31:02]:
I believe so. Have

Deep Voice Man [00:31:03]:
my name?

Dave Jackson [00:31:04]:
If I click on here

Jim Collison [00:31:06]:
Your your profile, so to speak. Right? Coming in here.

Dave Jackson [00:31:10]:
I know it's in here somewhere.

Deep Voice Man [00:31:12]:
And then as a guest, so, like, Jim and I are both guests. I also was able to open up a private chat just with Jim.

Dave Jackson [00:31:18]:
Mhmm.

Dave Jackson [00:31:18]:
Because I

Deep Voice Man [00:31:19]:
don't want Dave to see the stuff I was saying about him, so I just went right

Dave Jackson [00:31:22]:
to Jim. I I can also, you

Jim Collison [00:31:23]:
know Have you seen the mustard on his shirt? Yeah. Gosh. That guy can't eat a hot

Jim Collison [00:31:27]:
dog.

Dave Jackson [00:31:27]:
Well, I also hate it when people ghost me so we can just go, no. We have to get it back. He's No. He's Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:31:34]:
Baby. Yeah. And

Dave Jackson [00:31:36]:
I'm playing with rounded corners. So if we wanna put Chris in a bubble, there's got to be a way.

Deep Voice Man [00:31:42]:
My head looks better in a box, not a round bubble.

Dave Jackson [00:31:45]:
Maximize dimensions. I saw it somewhere in here where I can do, there's an option to do something with the lower third. And I can't find it. But it's it's in here somewhere. Because I know Jim and I don't have it either. And there is a setting somewhere in settings where you can have it, you can even say, show the lower third once, and then repeat, have it show up every time we switch scenes, or show the lower third, like every 8 minutes. And I was like, well, that's kind of neat. Oh, but I haven't I played with it a lot last night.

Dave Jackson [00:32:16]:
And I was like, I feel comfortable doing this. And as I do it now, I'm like, yeah, you probably should have practice some more.

Deep Voice Man [00:32:21]:
But

Jim Collison [00:32:22]:
No. You're practicing right now. It's fine. Yeah. It's

Deep Voice Man [00:32:24]:
and I wouldn't abandon it next week. You had alluded to that earlier. I I would like Jim said, I would give it 4 or 5 weeks.

Dave Jackson [00:32:29]:
Okay. That's true. I got time

Deep Voice Man [00:32:31]:
to get

Dave Jackson [00:32:31]:
I paid for it. You know? Might as well. Yeah. And that'll save my it was Ecamm. You get x amount of streaming hours per whatever. And I know I've already had to go back and buy more time, so that would be, you know it's like you said, I'm paid for it. Might as well get here. And then

Deep Voice Man [00:32:48]:
And you should still have other options too for, like, this isn't the only layout option. Right?

Dave Jackson [00:32:52]:
Oh, no. They're they're tie I mean, I could that's what's kind of fun is I just wanna do this just for if I do this, is your name big now? Like, is it just Chris Nessie? There we go. Alright. So, yeah, I could, if I wanted to, let's just if I do this, right, there's the dynamic thing. So in theory, nope. Oh, I gotta add Chris to the scene. There we go. So this is what they call the dynamic scene.

Dave Jackson [00:33:17]:
Meaning I it's it's literally looks just like StreamYard. It's but if I do this, is it just okay, so there's that. And then there's this. Yeah.

Jim Collison [00:33:27]:
Go to to the center.

Dave Jackson [00:33:29]:
Yeah. So I'm just switching scenes, and it's it's rearranging us. And then, you know, I can say, wait a minute. You know, let's just sorry, Jim, but, yeah, I can make my logo big. You can play.

Deep Voice Man [00:33:40]:
Like, I know normally you'll have a background that has the school of the

Chris Nesi [00:33:44]:
Yeah.

Chris Nesi [00:33:45]:
Podcast coach with the number Oh,

Dave Jackson [00:33:46]:
well, now we can do this. Oh. You know? So I could add

Deep Voice Man [00:33:51]:
It's good for screen burning on the people watching on their big TVs. Yeah. Exactly.

Dave Jackson [00:33:55]:
Yeah. So this has a, you know, or a gradient. So I don't know. Yeah. But I could basically add my own, I believe, if I wanted to. Because if I go here, oh, I could generate an AI background. Oh, let's try it.

Deep Voice Man [00:34:10]:
Based on what?

Dave Jackson [00:34:12]:
Generates it. Okay. So here

Jim Collison [00:34:14]:
A bunch of old ones.

Dave Jackson [00:34:15]:
They have a bunch of ones here. So here, let's just go. I guess this is my apartment in Manhattan. Okay, so I've done that. Now add it. Oh, here we go. There we go. So

Deep Voice Man [00:34:27]:
Hey, to Randy Black, who just said maybe we should add as many people, go to ask the podcast,

Dave Jackson [00:34:31]:
go to podcast.com. Question. Yeah. You can have up to 12 people in here, so that could be a little crazy.

Deep Voice Man [00:34:39]:
Let's get crazy.

Dave Jackson [00:34:40]:
Let's get crazy.

Jim Collison [00:34:41]:
It's a little unruly.

Dave Jackson [00:34:43]:
Yeah. But it's yeah. I'm gonna try this again. So in theory, Jim I'm a

Deep Voice Man [00:34:49]:
little more if I'm not grumpy.

Dave Jackson [00:34:50]:
Yeah. If if I You're

Jim Collison [00:34:51]:
all grumpy. I just don't know it.

Dave Jackson [00:34:53]:
Like, right now, I'm just talking to Chris, but I'm pretty sure Jim can still hear me as can everybody else. Yeah. Yeah. So that's don't tell your secrets.

Deep Voice Man [00:35:01]:
Now when you did that, I saw a little thing on the screen that was very rainbow gradient.

Dave Jackson [00:35:06]:
Yeah.

Deep Voice Man [00:35:07]:
Can you do it again? Because I also have the YouTube, on my phone down at my desk.

Dave Jackson [00:35:12]:
So I am just now talking to Chris. Chris is the only guy that can hear this.

Jim Collison [00:35:16]:
That's not really true, though.

Dave Jackson [00:35:17]:
Yeah. That's

Deep Voice Man [00:35:18]:
I didn't see the little

Dave Jackson [00:35:19]:
The little thing.

Jim Collison [00:35:20]:
The

Deep Voice Man [00:35:20]:
little wave thing

Dave Jackson [00:35:21]:
on the phone. I can also send a chat just to, yeah, I see where Chris sent me a private chat. So that's kind of fun. So it's got some some unique features. Danny says one of the the things that I like about Boomcaster is the option to monitor and adjust the LUFS so all speakers are equal. That's pretty handy.

Jim Collison [00:35:41]:
That would be real handy.

Dave Jackson [00:35:42]:
Yeah. Wish more platforms did this. This might have a built in volume adjuster, which usually I turn off depending on what it does.

Deep Voice Man [00:35:52]:
It prompted me to, like, automatically adjust my gain when I came in, but, I've got, you know, a setup.

Dave Jackson [00:35:58]:
And then Jeff is saying, does it record ISO video tracks? No. That is the one I was like, bummer. It does record things locally and then upload them. So that's the good news. But you don't get so if you're looking like with, you know, Chris Nesi, right? I get we record in ECAM or StreamYard, and I just give him here's here's Dave and here's Jim. And then Chris works his magic mojo over there at castahead.net. And the next thing I know he's like, oh, here's, you know, 7 clips. And they're actually usable clips as opposed to the AI tools that you're like, you know, upload something and it will create 800,000,000 clips and of which, you know, 4 are good.

Dave Jackson [00:36:38]:
It's like, well, no, his are actually good. So it's it's fun to do, but nobody is nobody's jumping in. And then Randy wants to know, Chris, we all wanna know about your gear. So what what audio interface mixer, RODECaster Pro? Is it at all? Oh, you have it's funny because the way your head is right now, it almost looks like you're sitting behind a desk because there's that one little thing. And I was like, wait. But no.

Deep Voice Man [00:37:01]:
Looks like a little Conan desk. Yes. Alright. Let's get nerdy for a second. No. I have a Shure SM 7 B going into a Tascam Mixcast 4 into an Imac.

Dave Jackson [00:37:12]:
Yeah. There we go. And then Danny says, hey. All that AI stuff sounds so innovative. Yeah. I was on the Captivate call. They they released they updated their new their their old interface. Because the problem is when you add so many features, like, all of a sudden your left side gets really, really long.

Dave Jackson [00:37:33]:
So they have where you can now collapse it. Like, an example might be the player. Like, I can go in and customize my player, and I'm probably never gonna do that again. So I could collapse that so it's not, you know, makes it shorter. But there were people in the chat room. They're like, where's the AI stuff? And I like AI. It's like, literally Descript will cut the editing of this show down hours. Because I go in, I might remove the word maybe and double words.

Dave Jackson [00:38:01]:
And so far, I haven't had any when I listened back to it, I'm like, I don't hear any really obviously bad edits. And then I go in this 90 minute thing, make chapters, and it will and I will add it, it drives me nuts that I can add chapters and I can do timestamps. But I can't make chapters with time stamps. That drives me bonkers. So I'll copy the time stamps to put in the show notes, and then when you export you go, alright, here's make this an mp 3 file. And the chapters that you put into the transcript, put in the chapters of the mp3 file. And if you're using something like buzzsprout or captivate, they will see those chapters and put them in. And now you're 2.0.

Dave Jackson [00:38:42]:
And you can do fun things like add pictures and links and all that other fun stuff. So it's it's fun. So via Dan says here, would I use this for interviews? You could because we're live here, but you can you can record without going, you know, kind of like StreamYard. You can record without being live streaming. The other thing, and this is an Ecamm thing, I right now am in studio mode. So I see 2 screens, but on my left hand side, I could come over here, I think, and I want to add text. Oh, it was so here we go add from No, I don't want apps and widgets. I want to add.

Dave Jackson [00:39:26]:
Okay. We'll add a banner and then nope. Banner show up everywhere. Oh, I did this last night, and I was like, oh, that's cool. But in theory, I could okay. So I'm gonna add a different background. Okay. So on my screen right now, I've got this weird purple yellow.

Dave Jackson [00:39:42]:
Looks like the screen is bruised, and I can see what it looks like on my screen. And when I click on transition, it moves it, and now we all look like the screen is bruised. So if you wanted to do something, I've always wondered how Jeff c, he will do things like he'll put a banner up that says whatever the topic is, and I was like, how is he doing that if you have your scene locked in ECAM, And this is the thing that they really need to fix because I have to now scroll up and down. Well, actually, I take this back because right now Dan's comment is stuck on the screen. So I believe if I click on show from this one from Randy, it puts his in there. And now I can is this a little today show going Dave plays with a new streaming platform? Yep. That is the title for today. And now can I click Okay? So if you want to get rid of a comment, and you're like, wait, that's from forever ago, put a new comment on the screen, and then you can take that one off and you're good to go.

Dave Jackson [00:40:43]:
So fun, film exciting. So is this your I know you said you've been playing with this. Is this your your main streaming tool? Are you using something else, Chris?

Deep Voice Man [00:40:52]:
StreamYard is my main streaming tool, but I again, I know I asked you about, oh, do you play why do you play with everything? I also have to dabble in in these things. And then once I had seen that, you know, change of ownership in StreamYard, I thought I might need to be prepared for a backup. So

Dave Jackson [00:41:12]:
Yeah.

Deep Voice Man [00:41:13]:
I'm playing with it. But I use StreamYard for a lot of this stuff.

Dave Jackson [00:41:17]:
Oh. Some of this Let's see what happens now if we add

Deep Voice Man [00:41:20]:
Well, then I'll get it.

Dave Jackson [00:41:21]:
If we add 4. There we go. The one in the busy? Yeah. It's because I'm in the yeah. See, I don't have a scene set up for 4 people. I have a scene for 3 people. So if I do this, like, Ralph's Ralph's not included. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:41:37]:
You just had them.

Jim Collison [00:41:38]:
And then you got them now.

Dave Jackson [00:41:40]:
But if I go back here to the dynamic scene, you know, then we're we're good to go. So

Dave Jackson [00:41:45]:
Hey, Ralph. Hey there. How are you guys?

Dave Jackson [00:41:48]:
Good, man. Good. So was it hard, you know, when you when you joined, was it particularly, you know, hard to was your typical click on that button, add your name? I It is weird that the lower thirds are not showing up, and I don't know. I I it's probably under settings somewhere that I can change, you know, etcetera, etcetera, but I I can't right now while we're live.

Jim Collison [00:42:15]:
You you can see days totally distracted by trying to get Ralph, was it was it difficult to get in or not?

Dave Jackson [00:42:21]:
No. But I'm trying to deal with the delay I'm seeing. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Dave Jackson [00:42:24]:
Just a YouTube thing. Yeah. That's Do you

Jim Collison [00:42:26]:
have YouTube still playing behind the scenes?

Dave Jackson [00:42:28]:
Yeah. That's where I

Dave Jackson [00:42:29]:
screwed up.

Jim Collison [00:42:29]:
So I

Deep Voice Man [00:42:29]:
was about to 20, 30 seconds.

Jim Collison [00:42:31]:
Yeah. You gotta turn your radio off. That's that's the turn your radio off.

Dave Jackson [00:42:36]:
Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm good.

Jim Collison [00:42:37]:
There you go. There you go.

Dave Jackson [00:42:40]:
Excellent.

Dave Jackson [00:42:41]:
I just wanted to show off my hat to everybody. Good day to do that.

Dave Jackson [00:42:46]:
There you go. Does that like, did you go to a rally? Or did you just pick that up at Walmart?

Dave Jackson [00:42:52]:
Or Actually, My son and I tried to get to a rally in Delaware the first time he ran, and I didn't feel like waiting in line for 12 hours. Oh.

Jim Collison [00:43:00]:
I'm locked up, Ralph.

Dave Jackson [00:43:02]:
Yeah. He is locked up. I don't know. I don't use that. So Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:43:05]:
I have no clue why.

Dave Jackson [00:43:06]:
And what's what's fun here is edit name. I can kick him out. I can mute him. And I can change avatar. That's kind of bizarre. Somewhere in here is a lower third setting. I'm here to tell you.

Deep Voice Man [00:43:20]:
I also added stuff to my profile through my options, so I don't know if that show would show up differently now.

Dave Jackson [00:43:27]:
That is yeah. Oh, boy. I think if I added you as a speaker, that's part of the problem. There's a cool thing for speakers, and then there's collaborators. And when you know somebody's coming on your show, you can invite them to be a speaker, and then they'll have little logos and all sorts of fun stuff. But a guest maybe that's why we I'm I'm not sure why Jim and I don't have lower thirds, but I guess a guest typically doesn't have a lower third. So fun filled

Deep Voice Man [00:44:00]:
And I have a different option here. It says offstage sound. Listen to feeds who are not on the scene.

Dave Jackson [00:44:07]:
Yeah. So if somebody was backstage, they can actually talk to each other. And, yeah, Krauss trying to unlock himself, make frozen screen screen again. It is. What are you gonna do?

Deep Voice Man [00:44:21]:
Wait. So does that mean, like, say, Ralph and I were not on live, we could talk to each other in the background?

Dave Jackson [00:44:28]:
Right. If I were to remove from the scene

Jim Collison [00:44:30]:
Or you could hear his audio if if we took him off. Can you

Dave Jackson [00:44:34]:
guys still hear me?

Dave Jackson [00:44:34]:
Yeah. We can still hear you. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:44:36]:
Yeah. We can hear you, and I can see you guys moving. But I'm like stuck in like, let me know where now.

Jim Collison [00:44:41]:
Let me try to try leaving and coming back.

Dave Jackson [00:44:44]:
Yeah, I'm going to remove him and put him back. And I can see him blinking when he talks, but your camera is is no try.

Jim Collison [00:44:53]:
Ralph try dropping the call and coming back. Yeah. See if that that fixes you. There we go.

Dave Jackson [00:44:58]:
So but so it's a fun tool. Another another crayon in the box to

Jim Collison [00:45:05]:
It's good, Chris, with with StreamYard, to get back to get back on topic, with StreamYard wavering at this point, right? There's some weird things going on behind the scenes we're not exactly sure what they're going to do with the company lots of the folks that were there and cared about it are now gone. You I've begun to began, I've begun, I began to start looking at other options. And this is just where I've begun to that I'll have to try again. To start looking at other we're getting somebody's eye. None that that I'll have to try again. To start

Jim Collison [00:45:41]:
Randy, you

Deep Voice Man [00:45:41]:
need to turn your radio down.

Jim Collison [00:45:43]:
Yeah, Randy. You're feeding back through, my friend.

Dave Jackson [00:45:47]:
Yeah. I'm not sure what now. Can we go crazy? We've got 4 people on the screen. And is Randy locked up now too? No. He's not. Okay. He's just very he's just very calm. Now if we had 5 people, is it cats and dogs? It is.

Jim Collison [00:46:00]:
Oh, there you go.

Dave Jackson [00:46:01]:
They said you can do up to 12 people. I don't know. Like, that would be a nightmare.

Deep Voice Man [00:46:04]:
And this layout's just happening because you're adding people.

Dave Jackson [00:46:08]:
Yeah. I'm just clicking add.

Deep Voice Man [00:46:09]:
Can you shuffle like, could you put you in the middle?

Dave Jackson [00:46:12]:
And I

Deep Voice Man [00:46:13]:
know it's very multiverse if Jim goes on the I don't know.

Dave Jackson [00:46:16]:
Yeah. I think can we put if I drag Chris to yeah. We can shuffle around. I could even if I wanted to, and Jim loves it when I do this, I can I can spotlight him?

Dave Jackson [00:46:27]:
I feel like I want Hollywood squares.

Dave Jackson [00:46:29]:
It is.

Jim Collison [00:46:30]:
Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:46:30]:
Very much so. RIP Paul Lin.

Jim Collison [00:46:33]:
I I listen, I have done 12. Well, StreamYard allows 10.

Dave Jackson [00:46:37]:
Okay. You know,

Jim Collison [00:46:38]:
we had 12. So we had we had to coordinate it in some way where we told them, okay, at this point, I'm gonna you're gonna go in backstage and drop, and then we're gonna add in the 2 other people, right? So we kind of practiced and coordinated that. And it was okay to have that many on. You really, as a host, you really need to control it better. You know, you just gotta be you gotta pay attention to what's going on and make sure you're bringing people in and some of those other kinds of things. But I don't know if it's the greatest video experience to have. I mean, our all of our screens would be, you know, all of our pictures would be so small. You definitely have to have some rules of engagement as far as who talks when.

Jim Collison [00:47:17]:
And and then realize, if you're gonna be on a podcast with 12 or 10, you're gonna get, like, 3 minutes. So you better Yeah. You better just be ready for, you know, I've done those podcasts with big groups, and somebody's like, oh,

Dave Jackson [00:47:31]:
man.

Jim Collison [00:47:31]:
I sat there the whole time, and I only got to say 3 things. Well, that's because there was a lot of people on there.

Dave Jackson [00:47:36]:
Yeah. You know? Yeah. It is one of those things where and my favorite is they'll ask a question, and they'll be like, so, Chris, do you like chocolate pop tarts? And Chris will go, Yeah, I think they're great. And I'm like, Jim, how about you? And you're like, yeah, I think they're great. And then Ralph will go, oh, I love chocolate pop tarts. So I'm like, okay, next question. I'm like, really? Like, you know, like

Jim Collison [00:47:59]:
Well, and then you did this a second ago, Dave, where you asked a question, but then you got distracted.

Dave Jackson [00:48:05]:
Oh, yeah.

Jim Collison [00:48:05]:
You were trying to do something.

Dave Jackson [00:48:07]:
Welcome to live, Dave.

Jim Collison [00:48:09]:
You kept talking. You know, you just kept talking, and it's like, no. Dave, stop talking so somebody can answer the question.

Dave Jackson [00:48:15]:
Yeah. So it's tricky. But so, you know, on the back end, it's not that hard. It's just I think right now, I I need a little more than 20 minutes to play with things. And now that I've figured out how to filter comments

Deep Voice Man [00:48:28]:
Would that be easier if next time out, Jim had more permission and

Dave Jackson [00:48:32]:
we Yeah. We'll make him a collaborator. And so yeah. And then I Craig, I've not done this yet. Craig from AI Goes TO College. Have you ever put butter on a pop tart?

Dave Jackson [00:48:43]:
Panel's so freaking good.

Dave Jackson [00:48:46]:
I have not done this. I need to go buy some

Jim Collison [00:48:50]:
proud of us for that.

Dave Jackson [00:48:51]:
I need to go buy some pop tarts just to try it. I've never

Jim Collison [00:48:55]:
It's pretty delicious. It's great. Pop tarts by themselves are pretty

Deep Voice Man [00:48:58]:
And it's a great song too.

Jim Collison [00:48:59]:
Yeah. Pop Tarts in McDonald's, same thing. You think that it's gonna be good. It's good right till the moment that you swallow it, and then you're like, what have I done? Why have I done this to myself? So it's that's pop tart too.

Dave Jackson [00:49:14]:
Yeah. That's I did that last night with Domino's Pizza. I'm like, I haven't had Domino's Pizza in a long time. And then I had it, and I was like, Oh, yeah. I was thinking of Pizza Hut. This is it was not my not my favorite stuff. Well, fun. Alright.

Dave Jackson [00:49:27]:
Well, Ralph, any questions while you're here?

Dave Jackson [00:49:30]:
No. I have no questions for you, Dave, other than I'm enjoying your book, and I wasn't being a provocateur this morning. And just I heard that when I was out walking the dog this morning, and I thought, that wheel of names is kind of a sort of a violation of what you talked about.

Dave Jackson [00:49:44]:
Yeah. As I was reading it, I was like, somebody didn't

Jim Collison [00:49:47]:
Well, maybe maybe it may not be a violation if you read it as platform versus video. If the video is not a part of the platform, then And I

Dave Jackson [00:49:56]:
would just

Jim Collison [00:49:57]:
I would

Dave Jackson [00:49:58]:
just add this because I actually had a client this week. This came up. They're an online influencer. If you receive anything from these companies, you're doing online influencers, the IRS is watching that now. There is a whole team of people now working at the IRS just watching social media. So be very careful if you're getting free swag or anything like that. Once that reaches $600, technically, they're supposed to send you a 10.99. I'm getting really tax wonky.

Dave Jackson [00:50:25]:
And UN

Jim Collison [00:50:26]:
this is US based. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:50:28]:
Yeah. I'm sorry. Yes. US based. And it's becoming an issue because a lot of people are getting stuff on social, you know, doing the social media stuff, and they don't realize there's a tax impact there. So just

Dave Jackson [00:50:39]:
Well, and you

Dave Jackson [00:50:39]:
be wary of that.

Dave Jackson [00:50:40]:
You have to disclose it.

Jim Collison [00:50:41]:
That's On YouTube, there's a checkbox to say, are there things being advertised? Right? So yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:50:48]:
Yeah. You're right. And, Danny says, you know, Pop Tarts, McDonald's, all you Americans are are hot cuisine. That is

Jim Collison [00:50:57]:
Such eyebrow. Such eyebrow cuisine.

Dave Jackson [00:51:00]:
And yet we're overweight. Why? I don't understand. Amazing. I don't can't figure that one out at all. Yeah. I think it's if I remember right, and I could be wrong, I often am, ftc.gov/influencer. They made an actual video. Like, hey, influencers.

Dave Jackson [00:51:17]:
If you are taking money from people, you have to disclose it. And I was like, wow. It's not like, hey. Here's a rule that everyone it was like, no. No. You're like YouTubers, influencers, like, we're watching you. And that's what, like, what Ralph was saying. I was like, so every time I saw somebody in Facebook this morning, like, oh, I charge people a little bit and blah blah blah.

Dave Jackson [00:51:37]:
Oh, we're we're gonna go crazy because

Jim Collison [00:51:39]:
Marv's here.

Dave Jackson [00:51:40]:
Uncle Marv's here. There we go. How's it going, buddy?

Jim Collison [00:51:43]:
Hi, Marv.

Dave Jackson [00:51:44]:
And the You're loud. He is a bit loud, but that's alright. I wonder

Jim Collison [00:51:47]:
if that's you.

Deep Voice Man [00:51:47]:
Michael. I'm Mike. What about now?

Jim Collison [00:51:49]:
Oops. Still pretty loud. That could be the platform. No? What's it's better. That's better. There we go.

Dave Jackson [00:51:55]:
Yeah. There we go. So Chris from castahead.net. It's a free product influencer must disclose per the FTC, and you have to do that upfront. That's the part I'm horrible at. Like, it's like on my newsletter now, I have at the very top my affiliate disclosure, like, hey, not all, but probably some of these links or affiliates doesn't cost you anything, and I might actually earn a few shekels. So but you have to do that upfront. So if I'm, you know, if uncle Marv is paying me to be on the show, I have to say, hey, today's show, in some way, I have to let people know, like, you know, uncle Marv is sponsoring this show.

Dave Jackson [00:52:29]:
It's so great to have him on the show today. Uncle Marv, you're great. You're wonderful. Oh, you know, however that's gonna go. And we've heard that on radio. The following is a paid promotion by doctor Sam, the chiropractor, you know, and then it's welcome to the chiropractor hour blah blah blah kind of thing. So, and then, Danny, because he's, you know, Canadian, Advertising Standards Agency, the ASA in the UK, ad standards in Canada, they all require disclosures. So yeah, that if you think you're like, wow, it's free money.

Dave Jackson [00:53:02]:
You know, I I will wanna attempt to do that. So

Jim Collison [00:53:05]:
Marv, do you wanna add anything?

Dave Jackson [00:53:06]:
Thank you.

Jim Collison [00:53:07]:
I just wanna jump in.

Jim Collison [00:53:08]:
Well, when you guys made the challenge to have up to 12, I I I tried to get her earlier, but the wife had a honeydew list in the

Jim Collison [00:53:15]:
past. No worries. No worries.

Jim Collison [00:53:17]:
But I will say I have also been on the fence about StreamYard, because that's what I use for both live shows and recordings. But we've we've had a little difficulties with, you know, some bandwidth issues and audio, and so I've been looking around as well. So thank you guys for bringing this up today.

Jim Collison [00:53:36]:
Yeah. Yeah. It I I noticed some things yesterday, but I couldn't tell cause I had this podcast that completely failed yesterday. I couldn't tell if that was the Microsoft CrowdStrike problem.

Deep Voice Man [00:53:46]:
Right.

Jim Collison [00:53:47]:
The guest couldn't get in, like, she couldn't get her laptop working. So I thought, Okay, that's probably CrowdStrike. And then so we went on the phone and she was great for a while, but then we began to experience some bandwidth problems both with her and with the host. And I'm like, what is going on here? And so it's right now with StreamYard, it's kinda hard to tell. I'm hearing more and more people complaining about that bit.

Dave Jackson [00:54:12]:
Like,

Jim Collison [00:54:12]:
hey, this just isn't as reliable as it used to be. Now some of that is that being read in because of the news? Like, you know, as soon as you're made aware of something, then you see it all the time. And so are people just seeing it now, or it was there before? I don't know, Marv. Any any thoughts on that?

Jim Collison [00:54:30]:
I'll be honest. I when I I switched my Internet from regular broadband to fiber, so a lot of the problems went away when I went to fiber. But probably in the last 3 weeks, they have been there regardless, so I know it's not my Internet anymore when I've got a gig up and down. So I would say there is probably a little bit of manifestation on the ownership change and, you know, I'm in the tech space, so once you hear about ownership change, new CEO, things inevitably change. So I I know that they're coming. I I hope they're not as drastic as we would think they would be. Yeah. But I also want an alternate platform because right now, you know, 2 times in the middle of recording, we stopped and went over to Zoom, and I don't wanna do

Jim Collison [00:55:18]:
that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it'll be in you know, that takes a new owner to come in and look at the bill, the Amazon bill, because they use Amazon Web Services as their back end, and say, holy buckets. Like, why are we spending so much money on bandwidth? Let's start to scale that back, and then all of a sudden, it doesn't quite scale like it used to. Right? And Right. To get a busy day and

Jim Collison [00:55:42]:
So the option is, do we, you know, stay where we are or we raise the price?

Jim Collison [00:55:47]:
Right. Right.

Deep Voice Man [00:55:49]:
Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:55:49]:
And that is something it's gonna be interesting to see who moves first. But every media host, like Lipson raised their prices, like probably 15 years ago. And it was like $2. But since then Captivate, Buzzsprout, Podbean, you know, blueberry, nobody's raised their price. And yet the thing I buy at Walmart, my little 2 cups of rice that used to be, I don't know, $2 maybe if that is now like 2:30. I'm like, if if things have gone up 30%, how do you pay your employees? You know, even a cost of living, You know, it's crazy. Oh, we're oh, it's it's cats and dogs living together. It's 6 people now.

Dave Jackson [00:56:33]:
Randy's back. Welcome, Randy. So I'm gonna be interesting to see because, eventually, somebody's gonna have to raise their price, you would think.

Deep Voice Man [00:56:40]:
And real quick, Dave, you bring up Lipson and how the price has been stable. Ever since I've been on there, I mean, I do the the $5 a month plan. I had the extra $2 for some the basic stats. And I think, what was it, maybe 2 years ago, two and a half years ago, I got more space for my book.

Dave Jackson [00:56:58]:
Like, I got

Deep Voice Man [00:56:59]:
more space per month Yes. And raise the the storage. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [00:57:02]:
It used to be if I remember, it was either 12 or 15,000 downloads per month because you can have as many shows, as many episodes, and and I loved it because Mark came out and was like, look. Bandwidth is cheap. 30,000. And that really as a No.

Deep Voice Man [00:57:15]:
No. No. No. On On Lipson, it was like Oh,

Dave Jackson [00:57:16]:
on Lipson. Yeah. Yeah.

Deep Voice Man [00:57:17]:
The plan was what? It was like 50 megabytes a month? Yeah. And now it's like doubled.

Dave Jackson [00:57:21]:
Yeah.

Deep Voice Man [00:57:21]:
Or even a little more. So

Dave Jackson [00:57:23]:
I I believe I could be wrong, but I believe that was it may be a reaction to one Mark Asquith at Captivate who did the same thing. Because we used to say at Libsyn, we'd be like, oh, you're going to Captivate, hope you don't get popular. And now you have to be really popular to go up to their their $50 a month plan. So what he did that

Deep Voice Man [00:57:44]:
concern for me to be popular.

Dave Jackson [00:57:46]:
Danny says use I've never I've heard of Boomcaster.

Dave Jackson [00:57:50]:
This is one I might have to

Dave Jackson [00:57:51]:
go play with. He's used it for the last 2 years, only ever had a single issue, and that was a podcaster upload speed. Yep. Team was on it with 30 minutes within 30 minutes, and they sorted it out, which comes in handy. You want good support for your stuff, whatever

Dave Jackson [00:58:05]:
it is. My question is, are you not liking Ecamm, Dave? Is that really what the issue is?

Dave Jackson [00:58:10]:
No. I I it's just me playing, and it's really when I saw StreamYard Jim, are you kind of in the same boat where I'm like I'm like, okay. First, they got bought by the people that bought Evernote. That is not a good thing because Evernote I quit using Evernote because they, like, almost doubled their price, and they've tried to make Evernote do everything. Like, oh, it's your calendar and your email. It will do your, you know, it'll wash your car. And I'm like, wait, I just wanted to take notes, you know. And so when I heard the company that bought StreamYard was the same company as Evernote, I was like, oh, this I shouldn't do this, but I'm kind of like, I'm not really sure.

Dave Jackson [00:58:49]:
And then the so when they bought StreamYard, and then I heard James Kirdlin report that they took their pricing page down, I was like, that's that doesn't make any sense. And so I was like, well, now what I I can I add this to this the thing? Oh, this is Chris Nesia sharing his screen. And so that's interesting. And if I wanted to, I could do this. And now we could look at Chris's screen. Well, that's fun.

Jim Collison [00:59:18]:
So I'm not I'm I only I'm not actually seeing a screen. Oh, it's

Dave Jackson [00:59:22]:
I just added it to the scene. Yeah.

Jim Collison [00:59:24]:
But I mean, it's I only do.

Jim Collison [00:59:26]:
We can see a preview in the back stage, but not on the live.

Dave Jackson [00:59:30]:
Because I just put it. It's on, like, it's the 6th person right now.

Jim Collison [00:59:34]:
Yeah. Yeah. You see it. We don't see it.

Jim Collison [00:59:36]:
There it is.

Jim Collison [00:59:37]:
There it is.

Dave Jackson [00:59:38]:
There we go.

Jim Collison [00:59:38]:
Oh, well, look at that.

Dave Jackson [00:59:40]:
And then I can do this. So what site

Deep Voice Man [00:59:43]:
is that might add to the production value from behind the scenes?

Dave Jackson [00:59:46]:
Oh, nice. Uncle Marv's site. Very cool. And then I can do this? Podfaded show.

Deep Voice Man [00:59:53]:
I I saw it in the background on your very

Dave Jackson [00:59:55]:
Yeah. I saw that. When I I saw it, it was hilarious because he's got uncle Mars on a healthy podcast right next to a bottle of something. And I was like, excellent. So

Jim Collison [01:00:03]:
Oh, good. A good bottle of something. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good bottle

Dave Jackson [01:00:07]:
of something.

Dave Jackson [01:00:08]:
And I'm loving the subtle a one c as a diabetic. I'm thinking, oh, that's suck. But but very effective.

Jim Collison [01:00:14]:
I never noticed that. No. As there it's actually Well Go ahead. Some other

Deep Voice Man [01:00:18]:
question about your background, which is not great for podcasting, but

Dave Jackson [01:00:21]:
That's alright.

Deep Voice Man [01:00:22]:
Marv's background looks like bifold wooden doors. And I'm curious to know if you customized that with the shelves, or did you buy are they specifically designed like that to do what you've done?

Jim Collison [01:00:33]:
I bought them like that and bought them off Amazon pretty cheap. I don't know. 40, $50 each. And I just wanted something else be besides a curtain or a white wall, and I wanted to put some things on there. Eventually, there'll be slots for vendors like the the can in the middle of the a one c is actually a, bottle from one of my vendors. The a c are initials of a good friend that passed away that gave me money to start my business, so I that's a salute to her. And then this usually isn't in the shop there. Todd the Gator hates it, but too bad, Bubba.

Jim Collison [01:01:11]:
And then I've got over tiers, some mugs and stuff for the show and all of that, but this was all prebuilt, and I wish the shelving were adjustable, but they're

Deep Voice Man [01:01:20]:
not. Or little saw, you could take those slats right out.

Jim Collison [01:01:22]:
Yeah. Or a little darker, maybe. But I I needed something lighter in the background. You guys can all have dark backgrounds. You can look fantastic. Me, not so much.

Jim Collison [01:01:33]:
I like the buffalo trace down in the corner there. That's that's delightful.

Deep Voice Man [01:01:37]:
And for those of you who are listening after the fact, go to ask the podcast coach.com. Get a YouTube video for today.

Jim Collison [01:01:43]:
Speaking of Todd DeGator, I think he's

Dave Jackson [01:01:45]:
Oh, there you go.

Jim Collison [01:01:45]:
There, Dave. Bring him in.

Dave Jackson [01:01:47]:
Yeah. The one and only.

Dave Jackson [01:01:49]:
Good morning.

Dave Jackson [01:01:51]:
So now did anybody else hear the ocean come and go away?

Deep Voice Man [01:01:55]:
Yeah. You must

Jim Collison [01:01:56]:
the it must be trying to adapt for the sound. That's you must be in a lot it must be trying to figure

Dave Jackson [01:02:03]:
something out. And I think it's uncle Marr because I I thought it might have been I was muting I muted Ralph. I muted a couple other things. Oh, now he's got a new sign. Excellent. Uncle Mars, IT business. There you go.

Jim Collison [01:02:16]:
Turned it around.

Jim Collison [01:02:17]:
That's how I changed my scenes.

Jim Collison [01:02:19]:
Yeah. Todd, can can we hear you? Are you there?

Todd the Gator [01:02:22]:
Yes. I'm here. Can you hear me? Yeah.

Jim Collison [01:02:23]:
Yeah. Good morning, guys. Morning. Thanks for joining us.

Todd the Gator [01:02:27]:
Had to join the party here.

Jim Collison [01:02:28]:
Yeah. I

Todd the Gator [01:02:28]:
did a similar thing on Discord, by the way.

Dave Jackson [01:02:31]:
Oh, there you go.

Jim Collison [01:02:32]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. Like, we could be have done this. I mean, we've only been doing this show for 7 years, and every week we could do 5 or 6 or 7 people. But for we switched to a new platform this week. Dave mentions it.

Jim Collison [01:02:49]:
Everybody jumps in. That's kinda nice.

Dave Jackson [01:02:51]:
We're talking about the company that bought StreamYard, and Randall says, yeah, it's it's the same. I guess he also bought LastPass, And they've kind of done some the thing I was listening to Thomas Umstatt junior. And it's just fun to say Umstatt because can you have a more German sounding name? And he does author marketing. And he was saying that even though LastPass was hacked, like, they didn't get your actual passwords. Like, all those are individually because I moved to one password when they got hacked in in. But nonetheless, you shouldn't be getting hacked if you're a security kind of related tool. And then Danny had a comment. Like Prownd strike? Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:03:32]:
Oops. Yeah.

Jim Collison [01:03:33]:
Too soon. Too soon, Mark.

Jim Collison [01:03:34]:
I know.

Dave Jackson [01:03:35]:
I I forgot about this one. Danny said I'm waiting to see, what happens now that Chris Motz has left Hindenburg. The Hindi 2 rollout has been, has been full of hiccups even a year later. I haven't had to I I'm not using half the stuff that's in Hindenburg, like all the transcripts and stuff like that. It's neat. The the coolest thing about it is if you have a single track and you're like, oh, you don't have separate tracks? And they're like, no. I didn't know I was supposed to have separate tracks. Like, okay.

Dave Jackson [01:04:05]:
Upload your one track with 2 people on it. Have Hindenburg transcribe it. And and then you can tell it what the, you know, what each speaker is, and it does something like to script. And then you could say, this one track with 2 people on it, give me 2 separate tracks. And based on the transcript, it'll move it. And I was like, because I've had that happen. And there's always that one person that sounds horrible. And now they're on their own track, and you can clean up their audio.

Dave Jackson [01:04:28]:
And I was like, that's pretty slick. But yeah, it was interesting that Chris left Hindenburg that it's been a while. And so I'm not sure, why or what or who knows? The thing that was interesting is I had left Lipson, and then the 2 guys that founded Advertisecast left, and it made it sound bad, like everybody are just jumping ship. And I'm like, no. They they sold their company to Lipson 3 years ago, they probably had it in the contract that after 3 years, they could go do their own thing. And so they're taking their money and, you know, gonna go have some fun. So

Todd the Gator [01:05:02]:
so Dave, where are where are you going again?

Dave Jackson [01:05:05]:
I can neither disclose go ahead and guess. I'm gonna try. Yeah. And look. Oh, can we do is it 7 people? Oh.

Jim Collison [01:05:13]:
Oh, there's Gary.

Dave Jackson [01:05:14]:
And he's got a cool accent, which is even better. So Gary is in the house. There you go. Good morning, gentlemen. So Gary, what do you use one more?

Deep Voice Man [01:05:23]:
You could title this 8 is enough.

Dave Jackson [01:05:24]:
What's what do you use when you do any kind of remote live streaming, whatever you're doing? What's your what's your tool of choice?

Jim Collison [01:05:31]:
Ecamm Ecamm. Yeah. We've used StreamYard. Still got a subscription to StreamYard for emergencies, and I had a coworker that didn't have a Mac, and so had that subscription.

Todd the Gator [01:05:43]:
But it

Dave Jackson [01:05:44]:
looks like they've they've updated it. I like

Jim Collison [01:05:46]:
the animations on those lower thirds.

Dave Jackson [01:05:48]:
Yeah. I was wondering because if I wanted to, you know, go to this comment, like, it takes I guess it's not that long. But if you wanted to do rapid fire comments, it becomes kinda animation like whiplash. 2 more will have the Brady Bunch. Excellent. So yeah. The other thing I I'm wish I could change is the way they have their chat set up is the newest chat is at the bottom of the list. And so anytime I do anything, when I go back to comments, I have to scroll all the way down to see the latest stuff.

Dave Jackson [01:06:24]:
And I was like, oh, that's not exactly They

Jim Collison [01:06:26]:
do have an arrow. They have an arrow that you can click that'll take you to the bottom. If you once once one comment gets in there, there's a blue arrow that appears at the bottom. That'll take you to

Dave Jackson [01:06:35]:
Okay. Well, there you go. Oh, excellent. I'm in

Todd the Gator [01:06:37]:
the dark I'm in the dark mode.

Jim Collison [01:06:39]:
There we go. Yeah. Dark mode is nice.

Dave Jackson [01:06:41]:
And I didn't realize what have been

Jim Collison [01:06:42]:
finally implemented dark mode Yeah. Just a couple weeks ago.

Dave Jackson [01:06:45]:
I didn't think it was that big a deal until this is dark mode, and this is light mode.

Jim Collison [01:06:50]:
Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:06:50]:
And I was like yeah. So Yeah.

Jim Collison [01:06:52]:
It's easier on your eyes too. It's just it's just nice.

Dave Jackson [01:06:56]:
I need to do that more often. Well, can you guys stick around? Because the one thing we haven't done yet is we need to go break the we need to go break the rules. But yeah. If you want to be an awesome supporter, you can do that.

Jim Collison [01:07:08]:
You, Dave.

Dave Jackson [01:07:09]:
You can't hear me. Well, I need to add me to the scene. We'll do this. That's interesting.

Jim Collison [01:07:16]:
There you go.

Dave Jackson [01:07:17]:
Alright. So you can be an awesome supporter here. I'll make me I'll make

Dave Jackson [01:07:20]:
me very tiny, very, very small.

Dave Jackson [01:07:23]:
Let me out just so you can hear me. You can be It's

Dave Jackson [01:07:25]:
a long game.

Dave Jackson [01:07:26]:
Yeah. You can what's fun is I can hear you guys, but the audience can't. So Oh, ho, ho. Rental. Yeah.

Deep Voice Man [01:07:33]:
So we shouldn't disrupt you while you do this.

Dave Jackson [01:07:35]:
Well, actually, when I think about this, because these guys are talking behind the scenes, in theory, I'm saying they can't hear you. I can't prove that. You know, I thought earlier if I did, you know, a group chat that so I you know, I'm saying they can't hear.

Jim Collison [01:07:50]:
Hearing each other though behind the scenes.

Jim Collison [01:07:52]:
Oh, I I hear you. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:07:53]:
I don't know. I'm hearing everybody.

Jim Collison [01:07:55]:
I'm hearing everybody.

Jim Collison [01:07:55]:
But you're probably hearing us all talking at the same time.

Dave Jackson [01:07:58]:
I am, and it's not distracting at all. And now well, here's the fun thing. People so I have to

Deep Voice Man [01:08:04]:
Hey. We gotta go to break. Come on. You gotta get through this.

Dave Jackson [01:08:06]:
Yeah. Exactly. So the this show is brought to you by and Chris Stone has joined, which is fun because you'll be able to hear Chris, but he's yeah. So, yeah, Ask the Podcast Coach is brought to you by The School of Podcasting. Use the coupon code coach when you sign up, and that comes with a 30 day money back guarantee. They do have fun little transitions. Ask the podcast coach runs on PodPage, it's here's the fun thing. Can oh, I'm not on the screen again.

Dave Jackson [01:08:34]:
So you probably am I I'm way up there. No.

Jim Collison [01:08:37]:
You're fine.

Dave Jackson [01:08:37]:
Now can I do this? Nope. I wanted to well, here, we'll just do this. Here's the cool thing about PodPage. So I move the School of Podcasting to Captivate, move Ask the Podcast Coach to Buzzsprout because I wanted the dynamic tools. Great. I put in the redirect, so everything redirects to Buzzsprout. Go to ask the podcast coach.com/youknowwhatever. And there it is, all my Buzzsprout players.

Dave Jackson [01:09:03]:
Great. Switched to Captivate. This is not a Captivate problem. This is a WordPress problem. And new episode comes out. I put the Captivate player there, and it dawns on me that I have manually put in all the links to Libsyn for 938 episodes, and I now have to manually go back. Although, Danny, if the if you guys didn't change my file name, because Lipson doesn't, I could have gone in probably and done a find and replace, which I've done before in the past. But and that's almost impossible.

Dave Jackson [01:09:33]:
I don't know anybody that's doing dynamic stuff that doesn't change her file name. But, yeah. So I now still have my Libsyn account, which I do anyway. I have other shows on Libsyn. But I it was one of those where I'm like, oh, I have to change those. So ick. But so if you need another reason to use pod page, check it out, tripodpage.com. And we're not running on Ecamm today, but that doesn't mean it's not a good platform, which is because it's Ecamm, 2 m's on there.

Dave Jackson [01:10:02]:
Go to ask the podcast coach.com/ecamm. And if you need more Jim Collison because, you know, who doesn't? There he is. The one and only. Then just go over to yes. I want to remove him from this I

Chris Nesi [01:10:13]:
need prom queen wave.

Dave Jackson [01:10:14]:
That is good. Yes. The average guy dot tv. And does this show save you time, save you money, save you headaches? Does it keep you educated? Well, then you should do what this guy did. Right? Except I can't

Chris Nesi [01:10:25]:
tackle Jim. No one could hear.

Dave Jackson [01:10:27]:
You you should do what this guy did. That guy, the awesome supporter. You should go over and be like Chris Stone at castahead.net and be an awesome supporter.

Jim Collison [01:10:36]:
That was and he's already distracted enough. So which didn't Right. Right.

Jim Collison [01:10:41]:
He hasn't yet realized he can hit that blue button at the bottom left.

Chris Nesi [01:10:44]:
Where all the bodies are hidden.

Jim Collison [01:10:45]:
He could he could mute us all.

Dave Jackson [01:10:47]:
The blue button. The blue the blue button at the bottom left.

Jim Collison [01:10:51]:
Yeah. Let's

Dave Jackson [01:10:51]:
Oh, yeah. Let's let's yeah. I could turn that off. Yeah. But what's what's the fun in that? So thank you for all you folks that have been an awesome supporter, but I forgot. Actually, I'm not done yet because, see, this is a nice thing. You can it's time to do the awesome supporter of the week on the wheel of names, which means I need to do this. They do have well, I showed it earlier where you they have their own built in.

Dave Jackson [01:11:13]:
But who will it be? You know, is it AI goes to college? Is it the horse radio network? It's right there. You can see there's Chris's Ralph.

Chris Nesi [01:11:21]:
Calamont Ralph. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:11:22]:
Calamont Ralph. Casted.net. And we spin it around a much more pleasant sound than the weird

Jim Collison [01:11:28]:
even heard it.

Dave Jackson [01:11:29]:
Oh, you're not. Excellent. Alright. Well, trust me. The winner is Jody Crangle. Let me you guys seriously can't see that? No. You're not. I'm seeing the old No.

Chris Nesi [01:11:37]:
We can't.

Dave Jackson [01:11:39]:
There we go.

Jim Collison [01:11:39]:
There it is.

Dave Jackson [01:11:40]:
There it is. Yeah. So I can make it bigger because it is a little

Deep Voice Man [01:11:46]:
Yeah. Jody.

Dave Jackson [01:11:47]:
Yay, Jody. Jody Kringle. So yeah. And now if I do if I were to click on I thought about doing this, which I'm not, but I could remove her. And then next week, everybody would have a better shot. But I'm gonna leave it like that. So there it is. So thank you again for being an awesome supporter.

Dave Jackson [01:12:02]:
And now if I go back to here, we're all back the Brady Bunch is here and I need to add Chris, which now I have so many people I am, I have to scroll to the right. There he is.

Jim Collison [01:12:13]:
Look at that.

Dave Jackson [01:12:15]:
I didn't remember

Chris Nesi [01:12:15]:
that time where we did a live stream with Dave Jackson. Everybody showed up with a MAGA hat and sipping buffalo tres.

Jim Collison [01:12:20]:
Yeah. Lawyers gainers.

Dave Jackson [01:12:23]:
Here's my question, Chris. Who who did you do your website? Did you hire somebody? And do you know what?

Chris Nesi [01:12:28]:
I hired somebody. For years, Dave, I've been telling everybody, you know, invest in your your brand, invest in someone who specializes in that. Mean meanwhile, I had my card table on the Internet for 3 years. So I hired a company called Lead by Example that's based out of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. And, yeah, thanks. They've I think they've done

Jim Collison [01:12:45]:
a a great job.

Chris Nesi [01:12:46]:
That's a real undertaking if anyone's wanting to to do a website, because it's not as easy as, like, here's all my stuff. Right? You gotta create your stuff

Dave Jackson [01:12:54]:
Yeah.

Chris Nesi [01:12:54]:
And have them make it look pretty. So

Dave Jackson [01:12:56]:
Yeah. I've I've thought about it multiple times. And when you have 19 years of caca behind the front page, you know, old lead pages that have been dead for years and stuff, you're like, so that's no fun. But I'm just happy

Chris Nesi [01:13:12]:
I get to see Todd the Gator's face. Like, there there's the real Todd the Gator instead of that little Gator

Todd the Gator [01:13:17]:
And then my avatar. Avatar. Yeah.

Chris Nesi [01:13:18]:
There he is representing the Gator's, of course. To where I had to I had to show up with my Michigan hat.

Todd the Gator [01:13:23]:
I see your Michigan hat.

Chris Nesi [01:13:24]:
There's no big 10 representation nor national championship representation until I arrived. Let me just

Dave Jackson [01:13:29]:
Hey. Wait a minute. Nebraska

Jim Collison [01:13:31]:
has won a couple national championships. So let's

Deep Voice Man [01:13:34]:
I adjunct at rut We've won

Dave Jackson [01:13:35]:
a few of the

Jim Collison [01:13:36]:
big task.

Chris Nesi [01:13:37]:
Stuff back there, Jim.

Jim Collison [01:13:37]:
We won a few That's true. Yeah. That's true.

Todd the Gator [01:13:40]:
Team in the nineties right there. I'm sorry. I saw uncle Mar's Florida state emblem back there, and I said I I have to represent. Sorry.

Chris Nesi [01:13:49]:
Here we go. We're gonna sing that song, that

Dave Jackson [01:13:51]:
awful song. Here we go.

Jim Collison [01:13:53]:
Canceled. Here we go. Right there. There's some mustard gear right there.

Dave Jackson [01:13:57]:
Little known fact, I spent my freshman year at the University of Nebraska as a member of the Cornhusker Marching Band. So great time in Lincoln, and I learned what the n stands for on the stadium. And it stands for the 4th year guy who graduates and still thinks you spell knowledge with an n.

Dave Jackson [01:14:13]:
Nice. Yeah. So Dave is saying, hey, what's your website? So, Chris, we'll start with you.

Chris Nesi [01:14:20]:
I am at castahead.net.

Dave Jackson [01:14:23]:
And Chris Nesse?

Deep Voice Man [01:14:25]:
Chrisnessi.com. Ralph?

Dave Jackson [01:14:28]:
Askralphpodcast. Uncle Marv? Itbusinesspodcast.com,

Jim Collison [01:14:33]:
and for the previous one, unhealthypodcast.com.

Dave Jackson [01:14:36]:
Nice. Todd the gator.

Todd the Gator [01:14:38]:
I have 2. It's guardian downcast.com and destiny help desk podcast.com.

Dave Jackson [01:14:44]:
Nice. Gary Stockton. Stockton dashmedia.com. There you

Jim Collison [01:14:49]:
go. Jim? The average guy. TV.

Dave Jackson [01:14:51]:
Beautiful. So there you go. But now here's the cool thing. In Kastmagick, in theory, it should I have a prompt to like, hey, make a list of all the websites mentioned.

Jim Collison [01:15:04]:
Yep.

Dave Jackson [01:15:04]:
And it that's one where I was like, okay, score 1 for AI. That was that comes in mighty handy.

Jim Collison [01:15:10]:
I think Otter will do that for you as well. And the one of the prompts I use talk about all the products, mention or list all the products we mentioned during the program. It'll do a nice job of bringing those in for you as well.

Dave Jackson [01:15:23]:
Nice. Yeah. I'm I I've been using Otter on and off a little more than usual. It's really impressive in terms Their

Jim Collison [01:15:30]:
AI is pretty cool.

Dave Jackson [01:15:31]:
I was like, holy cow, just the the summary and then someone at the school of podcasting, if you've never used fathom.video, it's a free tool, and it's kind of annoying that it joins every Zoom meeting. Like, I've yet to really figure out how to not join a Zoom meeting without the Fathom thing. But the summary, it does for free, and it's one of those, like, join the free program, and then if you want extra features, it's x amount of money, but their free version is too good. Like, I can't really think of too much that I wouldn't want outside of it. But what I love it for is for coaching. And at the end, it'll be like, okay. You know, Dave and Jim talked about such and such and blah blah blah. Jim's action items are do this, do that.

Dave Jackson [01:16:16]:
I was like, oh, okay. That saved me a huge amount of time. What are you guys using in terms of AI? Anything off the top of your heads that you're like, oh, that's cool.

Jim Collison [01:16:26]:
Descript for me.

Dave Jackson [01:16:28]:
Yeah. Anybody I'm doing the same thing.

Dave Jackson [01:16:30]:
I use Descript as well. And Poe actually, I use Poe for a lot of my, you know, developing show information and writing scripts and all that sort of thing. It's great. Because I can throw multiple AI tools, you know, multiple bots at I got that from Craig from, you

Dave Jackson [01:16:45]:
know, AI to college,

Dave Jackson [01:16:46]:
and it's been great.

Dave Jackson [01:16:48]:
Yeah. I just I just dip my toe into the toe pool last night. And it it's a little, and I mean, very little, overwhelming because there's, like, here's here's 13 different things you can try, and I'm like, ah, you know, and then you just start playing and make me a picture of a podcaster recording in a messy basement. They're like, here it is.

Chris Nesi [01:17:10]:
Fingers.

Dave Jackson [01:17:11]:
Yeah. So yeah. It's there's always one thing that's a little weird, you know, like the one the pop filter was on the other side of the microphone. I was like, so close.

Deep Voice Man [01:17:22]:
Just remember, it's getting better every day. Yeah. The worst it's gonna be.

Chris Nesi [01:17:26]:
If AI creates an image of a podcaster speaking into a Blue Yeti the wrong way, then we've got

Dave Jackson [01:17:31]:
it wrong. That's it.

Chris Nesi [01:17:33]:
Yeah. That joke is only good for this crowd.

Dave Jackson [01:17:36]:
That's it. Yeah. Craig is the guy by AI Goes TO College, also an awesome supporter. He says, yeah, Poe is pretty awesome. And that's why I tried it out because here's a great tease that the episode I was listening to with Craig, and he said, I've reviewed a bunch of these AI tools, and I'll tell you my favorite one. And I was like, oh, interesting. And he goes, and it's not chat gpt. Because I assumed it was going to be chat gpt.

Dave Jackson [01:18:01]:
And so he went through and was, know, reviewing all these different ones. And at the very end, he's like, yeah, my favorite one is Poe. And it's just Poe dotcom as in Edgar Allen. So or I'm so Poe. No. That's not how that works.

Dave Jackson [01:18:14]:
And it's dirt cheap. I mean, that's the other thing about it. I mean, for what you're gonna use it for, getting access to all those bots that you'd have to buy individually, it is really great because I I can dump a show idea into it, run it through Claude, and then switch it over to Gemini and switch it to chat GPT and switch it to this, that, and the other thing. It's been it's been really cool for me developing, like, my show idea because we're doing a daily show, it's a bit of a grind. And I can drop an idea into that. It'll spit me out, and I go, and it's not really want everyone to go. So now I could throw it over to this other bot. And I'm like, I'm not doing a commercial for Poe, but it really is a very useful tool.

Dave Jackson [01:18:52]:
Yeah, that's what I did last night. I said, you know, give me the podcast recording in the basement. And I was like, alright. And then there's like 3 other services. And I was like, okay, try this. Try that. And if you're a I guess, a, you know, a what do you call it when you design it? The prompt junk jockey, I heard somebody say that.

Deep Voice Man [01:19:08]:
Prompt engineer.

Jim Collison [01:19:09]:
Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:19:10]:
I guess if you make your own cool prompt, you can somehow then get it into Poe. Like, one was really based on copywriting. So there are all these little prompts kinda built in, and then if people use your prompt, you somehow earn some sort of revenue. And I was like, well, that's interesting. Because that's really what Cast Magic, CapShow, Podsqueeze, Swell did. It's just a you know, they're just using a language model, and they've just tweaked it to be like, Captcha was very copywriter kind of stuff. So I was like, well, that's interesting.

Chris Nesi [01:19:45]:
I think they're improving. Right? But I think a lot of them try to be the Swiss army knife. Like, you mentioned you just mentioned S'well AI, and I was a huge fan, and then they just started to do video. And I started to use their video, and I was, like, you know, there's a lot of it. There's probably 6 or 7 other platforms Opus comes to mind that does that already specializes. Now if Opus came out with a, hey, and now we have something that will bake a cake for you, you're gonna be like, I don't think I'm gonna go there to bake my cakes while I'm getting my AI generated, you know, video. And so, I think, for me, I just talked about investing in things. I I think, invest in invest in things that do well for that one thing.

Chris Nesi [01:20:25]:
It's kinda like, hey, I have Kajabi, and they have podcasting. It's like, I don't think you ought to use Kajabi as a podcast host. You know what? Sorry, Kajabi. I love you for courses and and and and that kind of thing, but, like, not so much for hosting my RSS feed.

Dave Jackson [01:20:39]:
When they that type of deal. When they first came out, and I approached them, and I said, hey, I see you jumped into the podcasting space. Like, I just wanna double check. You guys can do a 3 zero one redirect. And the people in their support kinda went, And I was like, oh, that's not good. Now they have since remedied that. You can you can redirect away from that. But yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:20:59]:
Somebody and going back to the Captivate update, there was somebody in the chat room. Where's your AI stuff? And I was like, do we really need another tool that, you know, is gonna create titles? And, you know, granted, it's all in one, but I don't know. I'm just like, so.

Jim Collison [01:21:16]:
Marv, when you were on my show, you mentioned an AI platform that I'd never heard of before. Do you remember?

Jim Collison [01:21:22]:
Yeah. Perplexity dotai. And I switched to that from chat gbt. It's a decent price, $20 a month if you pay for the year, but it allows a lot of chat gbt plus where you can upload unlimited size documents that it'll analyze, it'll pull from, you know, websites. And I just basically, you know, crafted my own prompts and I use it. I actually have one prompt that'll do my show notes and all of my, key takeaways, my SEO, you know, description tags for the website and all that stuff. And every now and then I've got to tweak it to give it a little bit of flavor, but you can tell it to, you know, write as the host, focus on my guest, and it's it's pretty good.

Dave Jackson [01:22:14]:
Very cool. Well, gentlemen, thank you for coming in to kick the tires on this and see if we can break it and it didn't break. So that's good news. And I think I now thank you, uncle Marv. I can turn this off so I can't hear you guys. And boo. And if I go over here, it's just me and Jim. There we go.

Dave Jackson [01:22:34]:
And now in Yeah.

Jim Collison [01:22:35]:
We're still there, though.

Dave Jackson [01:22:36]:
In theory, they can hear each other.

Jim Collison [01:22:37]:
I can hear yeah. They can. And I can hear them too. I left it on. So I

Dave Jackson [01:22:43]:
Now try to do something. That's the fun part When somebody's talking in your

Jim Collison [01:22:46]:
ear hard. Yeah. It's super hard when they're all talking in your ear. It's real hard, but but Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:22:54]:
So, well, Jim, what's coming up on

Jim Collison [01:22:56]:
Hold on. I gotta shut them off.

Dave Jackson [01:22:59]:
Home gadget geeks.

Jim Collison [01:23:01]:
Yeah, boy. It's been a while. It it was just Thursday, but with all of them talking in my ear, it's a little it's a little distracting to to remember what we did. You know what? I'm I'm a loss.

Dave Jackson [01:23:11]:
It's like an episode of hot wings.

Jim Collison [01:23:13]:
I don't know. I all I can

Dave Jackson [01:23:14]:
think of is my my tongue's on fire.

Jim Collison [01:23:16]:
It's back. It's back. Gavin Campbell joined me. We spent a little time talking about Amazon Prime deals, 3 d printers, and and such on the show. So it's it's of it not available just yet, but it will be later on this weekend, the average guy dot team.

Dave Jackson [01:23:30]:
Yeah. On the school of podcasting, I'm still shaping this in my head because it's gonna be weird because I'm going to be talking about me. And that seems really boring to me because I know me. But I have I had 2 people ask, and we're gonna talk about how the fact that, like, when you look at Jim or if you look at if you look at Chris's background. Right? So if I can I bring Chris back up for 2 seconds? Look at that background. That's amazing. Right? And you're like, holy cow. And he's got if you could see it, he's got an r two d two back there.

Dave Jackson [01:23:56]:
And but Chris didn't start that way. And a lot of people see stuff like that, and they're like, oh, I'm like, so we're gonna kind of do the old, you know, a little bit of Dave's story of, like, this is what I started with. Then I went to this and, like, and now I have a verapole in my ceiling. So you don't just start that way. So that'll be coming up. There is a voice in my head that right right now is going, did I deliver any value today on this show? Like

Jim Collison [01:24:20]:
That's fun.

Dave Jackson [01:24:21]:
To the listener. Yeah.

Jim Collison [01:24:22]:
TV show today.

Dave Jackson [01:24:22]:
It does remind me of the good old days when we're on Blab and all the other ones just basically kicking the tires on stuff. So

Jim Collison [01:24:29]:
No. Thanks to everybody who came in. Appreciate that. That's it was it was fun. Thanks for giving us some time this morning. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:24:34]:
And so

Jim Collison [01:24:35]:
Jump in and do that.

Dave Jackson [01:24:35]:
We will be here every week as always. Ask the podcast coach.com/live, and like, subscribe, and ring the bell, and all that other fun stuff. See you. And

Jim Collison [01:24:56]:
still recording.

Dave Jackson [01:24:57]:
Okay. And now I can view recordings of that one too. I will do it later. So

Jim Collison [01:25:02]:
There it goes.

Dave Jackson [01:25:02]:
And in theory, if I go back here, and there we go.

Dave Jackson [01:25:06]:
There we go. So We wanted to

Jim Collison [01:25:08]:
dance out the show, Dave.

Todd the Gator [01:25:12]:
I'm like,

Dave Jackson [01:25:12]:
this is cool. That I don't know who it is. Uncle Marv, mute yourself for a second. No. That's not uncle Marv. It's somebody or it's just a conglomeration of this much noise from everybody. It just sounds like I'm listening to somebody's refrigerator.

Chris Nesi [01:25:32]:
I can hear it too. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:25:33]:
And I don't know.

Todd the Gator [01:25:34]:
Oh, that might be me.

Dave Jackson [01:25:35]:
Sound machine, actually.

Todd the Gator [01:25:37]:
That might be me. My fan's running underneath me. Here, I'll mute myself.

Chris Nesi [01:25:40]:
He's got a fan cooling the Oh,

Dave Jackson [01:25:41]:
it was Todd the gator.

Todd the Gator [01:25:44]:
I I need to really soundproof this room. I've got some work to do. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:25:47]:
Because I was like I'm like, mhmm. Then I'm trying to

Jim Collison [01:25:50]:
I think everybody came in a little hot for some reason. And it just was just picking up extra noise.

Todd the Gator [01:25:56]:
My bad. My bad.

Jim Collison [01:25:57]:
Oh, not a big deal.

Dave Jackson [01:25:58]:
Pete Yeah. I know Chris was saying that there's some pretty

Jim Collison [01:26:01]:
A phonic will take care of it.

Dave Jackson [01:26:02]:
Yeah. So I'll run it through. I might run it through the scripts, whatever it is, studio sound, and hope that it doesn't make everybody sound like we're underwater.

Jim Collison [01:26:10]:
And not like a giant sausage fest today, gentlemen.

Dave Jackson [01:26:13]:
Thank you. That's it. I'm like, no. I'm like, come on, Doctor. We need some yeah. Holy cow.

Todd the Gator [01:26:19]:
That's alright. That's I'm that person in the podcast. He's gotta do special editing for it. I do apologize. Sorry. I wasn't No, man. Cognizant of myself.

Dave Jackson [01:26:26]:
No. It's not a biggie.

Deep Voice Man [01:26:27]:
Each week I watch and I wonder why we don't have people just joining and having a good time on a Saturday morning.

Jim Collison [01:26:32]:
Good stuff. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:26:32]:
That was great, guys. I really enjoyed it. That was fun and very interactive, and I Podcast.

Dave Jackson [01:26:42]:
I do have people that send me a thing about how great they are, and they would love to be a guest on Ask the Podcast Coach. I'm like, ask the podcast coach.com/question. You can jump in anytime you want. And yet they don't. So it's always

Chris Nesi [01:26:54]:
like He's only been baba booed, like, one time when

Dave Jackson [01:26:57]:
I remember.

Chris Nesi [01:26:58]:
Yeah. That's why

Todd the Gator [01:26:58]:
I remember that one.

Chris Nesi [01:26:59]:
Then it'll it is it's etched in my brain that will unfortunately Was it

Jim Collison [01:27:03]:
the weed guy? Was it the weed guy?

Chris Nesi [01:27:05]:
Oh, I remember that one. No.

Jim Collison [01:27:06]:
The other porn guy was porn. Porn guy.

Dave Jackson [01:27:08]:
The porn guy. Yeah. The other guy was very well endowed. And and

Chris Nesi [01:27:13]:
then we had this guy from my memory.

Deep Voice Man [01:27:14]:
Hell of a cornstalk.

Dave Jackson [01:27:16]:
Well, we good. We we had the remember the Russian guy, the Russian kid that kept coming in with the shirt off?

Todd the Gator [01:27:23]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:27:24]:
And we're and we were using this this system called Blab. And he kept coming in and asking tech support questions about Blab. We're not the Blab show. Like, and I would like, thanks so much. We'll see you later. And I kick him out in about 2 minutes later, come back in. And it's just like 14 year old kid with a shirt off. And I'm like, no.

Dave Jackson [01:27:41]:
Like, just we're not Blab support. So that was fun.

Jim Collison [01:27:44]:
Yeah. We

Chris Nesi [01:27:44]:
would get that on Amazon sometimes. We go live on Amazon, people would be asking Amazon questions, and we're like, we're just on the platform. And then at one point, the Amazon person jumped on and started asking their questions. That's when it got creepy, like, okay, they are watching this thing. Dude.

Dave Jackson [01:28:01]:
Yeah. All fun. Yeah.

Deep Voice Man [01:28:03]:
Ralph, I had a quick question for you. Sure. How many cameras do you have? So I've got because I saw you switch it a couple times.

Dave Jackson [01:28:08]:
Yeah. So I've got the El Gato camera that I was using. Hold on a second. So I've got the Elgato face cam that I use over in the prompter. Then so what I've got, I've got 2 studio displays. So that's the front studio display, and then the sides to be able to stay a sec. Move over this way. I haven't really played with that much in my video podcasting yet, but I'm thinking about doing a live show.

Dave Jackson [01:28:34]:
Dave and I were talking about that yesterday, so I've been playing with different angles and all that.

Chris Nesi [01:28:38]:
So It's switching your audio

Deep Voice Man [01:28:39]:
with It switches the audio too.

Dave Jackson [01:28:41]:
Yeah. Oh, really? That's interesting.

Chris Nesi [01:28:43]:
Your end, Ralph.

Dave Jackson [01:28:44]:
Alright. I'll check that out. Does the audio sound good now?

Chris Nesi [01:28:46]:
Mic, and then probably is a camera mic

Dave Jackson [01:28:49]:
on Oh, you know what? It might be it probably might be doing that. I didn't change it intentionally, but it might be doing that. So thank you, Chris. I appreciate that.

Deep Voice Man [01:28:57]:
And how are you are you using a Stream Deck to switch the the cameras? No.

Dave Jackson [01:29:01]:
I'm just doing it right in the switch that's here on the Evmux or whatever it is.

Chris Nesi [01:29:05]:
That's probably what's doing the audio switch too.

Dave Jackson [01:29:08]:
I I Yeah.

Chris Nesi [01:29:08]:
Because right browser streaming software.

Dave Jackson [01:29:11]:
Yeah. I have a Stream Deck, so I could probably set that up to do that. That's why I was playing with Ecamm. I actually bought Ecamm, and I was gonna start, you know, using that if I do a live show or even with my interview shows. So that's kinda where I was going with that discussion because the Stream Deck is cool. Like, as an accountant, people come in there like, dude, what are you doing here? Because I've got the Elgato prompter, and I've got lighting, and I've got a Stream Deck. They're like, this is a little bit bizarre for the accounting firm. I was like, yeah.

Dave Jackson [01:29:35]:
Well, guess what? This is what I like to do.

Chris Nesi [01:29:38]:
I like to be a guest And

Deep Voice Man [01:29:38]:
you can write it off.

Dave Jackson [01:29:40]:
Dave Yes. Sure. I can write it off.

Chris Nesi [01:29:42]:
That's a me to connect you with the Evmux guys. If you were look if you like, I know you you have, you know, some sort of relationship with Ecamm, but if you wanna be connected with the Evmux guys, I do events for them sometimes.

Dave Jackson [01:29:53]:
So Okay.

Chris Nesi [01:29:53]:
Yeah. I've already Milad and Iran are are the guys that Yeah. That do that. So

Dave Jackson [01:29:58]:
And they just came out with some new videos in their Facebook group because the stuff on their YouTube channel is 2 years old. I'm like, oh, it it still works. They're they've changed their interface. But, yeah, they seem like nice guys.

Chris Nesi [01:30:09]:
They they're willing to do, like, you know, have conversations about partnerships and whatnot. And, you know, I know you're not, like, you you don't have to stick with a particular platform necessarily Yeah. When you do these things.

Dave Jackson [01:30:21]:
So Awesome. Alright, gentlemen. Well, I I'm running to the zoo. So

Jim Collison [01:30:26]:
Have a great weekend.

Dave Jackson [01:30:27]:
Your job

Dave Jackson [01:30:28]:
is at the zoo, Dave. You finally That's it.

Dave Jackson [01:30:30]:
That's it. Right. I'm the new

Dave Jackson [01:30:32]:
going to be working at the zoo. You heard it here live.

Jim Collison [01:30:35]:
Somebody called James Cridland.

Dave Jackson [01:30:36]:
That's it.

Jim Collison [01:30:37]:
Let him know.

Dave Jackson [01:30:37]:
Teaching the gorilla how to, you know, poop in a bucket. I don't know. Breaking news.

Chris Nesi [01:30:42]:
Yeah. Paige Jackson zookeeper. Yeah. Excellent.

Deep Voice Man [01:30:45]:
Nate Jackson is joining the Cleveland Zoo on Jim's CreekLink.

Dave Jackson [01:30:52]:
Exactly.

Jim Collison [01:30:52]:
Alright, Phil.

Jim Collison [01:30:53]:
Drive in.

Dave Jackson [01:30:54]:
Here we

Dave Jackson [01:30:55]:
go. Thank you. Alright. See you. Take care.