Bringing Back the Classics: Music, Tech, and Making Lasting Podcast Content

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Ask the podcast coach for May 11, 2024.

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Let's get ready to podcast.

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There it is. It's that music. That means it's Saturday morning. It's

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time for ask the podcast coach where you get your podcast questions answered

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live. I'm Dave Jackson from the school of podcasting.com,

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and joining me right over there is the one and only Jim Collison from

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the average guy dot tv. Jim, how's it going, buddy? Greetings, Dave.

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Happy Saturday morning to you. Happy Mother's Day weekend for

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those mothers out there. We celebrate you, and

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thanks for doing what you did. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here today.

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No. No. But that whole thing,

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like go ahead. My favorite tweet was there was this

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board of of of holes, and it went from 1 centimeter to 10

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centimeter. And it was over the top of 1 child's head, and it was like

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Yeah. Remember, your mom went through this for you.

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Yeah. Yeah. When they go, you know, which is the stronger sex? I'm like, yeah.

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There's are we really even gonna have this conversation? I'm like Not at

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all. Not at all. No. And they put up with all your shenanigans.

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You know? I just It's a miracle they don't kill us. There's I how do

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how do children actually how do we get to adults as humans

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without our mothers murdering us in the middle of the night.

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I my mommy could've just taken me out. It would've been just

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like That's enough of that. Yeah. You're done. That's

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funny. Woah. Yeah. But, we have speaking of,

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we we have some I I hate that I can't it sounds like a boat

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going by. We have a we have a new

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awesome supporter. How cool is that? In fact, help me throw her

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website on the screen. It's the one and only Jodi Krangle

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from voiceoversandvocals.com. And, Jim,

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you may have heard her if you've ever heard this commercial.

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I only accept the best. Fancy Feast.

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Now Or the NFL. What 5 months of spa Sundays?

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Order NFL Or Pfizer. Pfizer, America's

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trusted branch Or Coca Cola? Holy cow. We're talking big

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names here. Oh. Zero calories, 0 sugar, same great

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taste. I still feel like You know? Or if you want her for a podcast

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intro, you know? Welcome to

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Audio Branding, the hidden gem of marketing. I'm your host, Jody

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Crandall, and this podcast will discuss So

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there you go. And she does have a podcast. If you go again out to

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voiceoverandvocals.com, I've been on her show twice.

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Audio branding, the hidden gem of marketing. So, Jody,

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thank you so much for becoming an awesome supporter. If I click on

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her link here real quick, we can see I was saying earlier, I'm like, where

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are the pictures of Jody? And there they are. They're on her podcast page. And,

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so, yeah, she talks all about, you know, using audio as a

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marketing tool, and it's, it's a great show.

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And, of course, obviously, it's going to sound amazing because, you know, it's got Jody

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Barnes. Jody. She does sound Yeah. She's got a great You should you should

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be, an awesome supporter like her by going to ask the podcast coach.com/awesome.

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But, you know, there's only one thing that can make the morning better,

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and, that would be a hot cup of Java, I think. So, yeah, get that

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up there, Jim, and and, of course, that

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coffee core the the coffee core. It's a new thing. It's a

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coffee pour, really, that we just use to coffee cores that could be a little

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Yeah. It's yeah. They might choke on those a little bit. But that's brought to

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you by our good friend, Mark, over at podcastbranding.co. How much do

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I love podcastbranding.co? Well, I'm gonna rebrand the

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podcast rodeo show. And as I do that, who did I

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order for the artwork? Well, none other than Mark at podcast branding

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dot co. So it's going to become podcasting hot seat, But,

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he's done ask the podcast coach. He's done the school of podcasting. He's done the

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podcast rodeo show. He makes really pretty artwork, and he

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does so much more than artwork. If you need a whole website, well, then

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just go over and talk to Mark because he's gonna sit down with you 1

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on 1 and find out what you need, whether it's artwork, a website, a PDF,

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or a lead magnet, anything you need to look good. Mark can help you with

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that. And the beauty of that is by sitting down with him, you kinda tell

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him what he's looking for. He then comes up with the idea. You're not the

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marketer. Let him do that. Explain what your show is, and he'll come up with

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a marketing plan that's gonna fit your show. So when

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you wanna look good, because remember, they see you before they hear you,

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there's only one place to go, and that, of course, is podcastbranding.co.

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And of course, big thanks to our good friend, Dan Lefebvre, over there based on

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a true story, based on true story podcast.com this

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week. The Hindenburg is a bad day for those guys. Band

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of brothers and operation finale. Over there

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now, episode I should know the episode

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number. I'm looking on the site right now. It doesn't matter. For May 6th through

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May 12th, check it out today based on a true story podcast.com. And,

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Dan, thanks as always for your sponsorship. We

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appreciate it. We do appreciate that.

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And to start off today, I thought what we

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would do is there is if I share my screen.

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I'm calling this more than a Wiki, which to me was

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very close I almost said Wookie the first time, and I'm like, wait. This is

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Different than more than a feeling? Is that this is more Too.

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So he says, hello, guys. I'm a newbie to the non

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listener scene. I didn't realize that podcasting was the

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non listener scene. Hopefully, you are a listener if you're a podcaster.

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That's like a jockey that doesn't own a horse. Like, Buddy says,

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I'm trying to create my own podcast, but I'm having trouble with my

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speech and the way I actually wanna talk about my topics.

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I wanna do semi educational comedy episodes on

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topics that interest me. My first episode is about a specific

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Beatle, and he's not talking Ringo John Paul and George. He's talking about the

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little creepy crawlers. Because otherwise it'd be a 4, maybe 5

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episode show when you're done. So far, my approach for this is

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basically a wiki reading, but I don't really like that approach. Yeah. I

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wouldn't either unless it's very news oriented and straight.

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Today, we're going to talk about The Beetle, as Spagarius

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or whatever. I wanted to try something more akin to people

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like Casual Geographic and Lindsey Nicole,

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the zoologist. I've never heard of either one of those, but, he says, but

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with my own comedic twist and in the form of a podcast

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on which I will sometimes get guests. There's no there's

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there's no way a call for review. Oh, he's just saying, look. I'm not asking

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for a review exchange. I'm not promoting anything. I just thought I'd ask

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some people more in the podcasting scene about some tips and tricks

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for a beginner with an obvious goal in mind for their project that

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lacks certain skills. So when I saw

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this, I thought, well, you know, you

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tried something. Right? You went over and you read the wiki, and

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you thought, that's not really what I was looking for. Now the good

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news is you have a goal. Right? The old Stephen Covey start with the

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end in mind. So that's good. But you you

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tried, and you missed it. And, like,

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with my book, that that thing went through 5 different edits. And I

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remember they kept sending me, like, here's the next edit. And I'm like, we've already

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done this twice. Are we not done yet? And then they I'd, like, send it

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back. Okay. Here are a couple things. And then they would send it back. Okay.

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Here's the 4th one. So just because you tried something

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and it wasn't exactly what you wanted

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doesn't mean, you know, quit. It just means, you know, you

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have an idea what it is. For for me, when I do a presentation, I

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put in the facts. Here's the here's this, and here's that slide, and all that

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other stuff. And then I just run it in my head over

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and over and over. And, eventually, something in my brain will go, oh, you know

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what? You could make that funny, or this and that, or here's an a here's

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a fun story you can add there. But I start with, like, what do I

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wanna cover? And then you're like, okay. Good. This is good content.

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And then it's from there, you just

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start tweaking it. John says it's not the skills he's lacking. It's

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lack of research and really needs to to make it his own. Yeah.

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I think that's a good comment. It's one of those things where I think he

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just needs to keep at it and practice. I don't know. What do you think?

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Yeah. As you were reading that question, it kinda reminded me of Bill Nye. You

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know, when Bill Nye came out with Bill Nye, the science guy,

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back 25 years ago, whatever it was, it was

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a fairly I'm fairly not unique, but fairly new way

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of covering science, right, in the way he did. He tried to make it fun

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and a lot of jump cuts and a lot of, you know, he he he

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got Right. He got kids involved in the video production bit of it.

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And it was new. And who knew who knew if it was gonna be successful?

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I mean, Hollywood is littered with first time failures

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where they went out the gate on something and said, hey, we're gonna make it

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this way. We're gonna try this. I mean, there was a bunch of superhero

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films that came out before kind of the Marvel

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juggernaut stuff we have today that were terrible.

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They're just awful. Right? And it's it's you you kinda

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have to go through some of those iterations. I mean, failure is just really

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and I gotta I listen. I physician healed myself on this one. I I

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really need to learn myself, but failure is just a learning step in the process.

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It's not the last step. I think a lot of folks think, like, oh, I

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failed. I should never do this. No. You should just do it a different way.

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If you really wanna do it, you should just try a different way,

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either yourself or the way you do it or whatever. And so we've

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gotta kinda get away from this idea of, well, if I failed, I

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guess I can't do it. Well, I mean, that yeah. That's with that kinda

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attitude, you're never gonna do it right. But with with

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saying, like, okay. Well, that didn't work. And I think this is what you just

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said, which is, okay. That didn't work. Let me try something different.

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Let's add this and or or let's learn from it and get better.

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Let's practice. Maybe there's some things that need to be practiced. Maybe there's just

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some experience that needs to be had so you just get better at the

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craft. Yeah. Jeff says, I don't fail at something. I tried.

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It was just an experiment that didn't work. Yeah. You keep going back

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at it. And I was watching I think it was 60 Minutes. It

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was somebody was interviewing Kevin Hart, and they were talking

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about his latest special. And he said, how long did it take

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you to come up with an hour's worth of material? And he

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said 9 months because it's one of those where you

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come up with a story, and you think it's funny. And then

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those guys, he has a whole team that records everything he does, and then

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they see, oh, he tried this word or used this kind of phrasing or

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whatever, and it got more of a laugh when you did this. So

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then he'll take that out and do that, but he'll then he'll tweak that maybe

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a little. They're constantly experimenting until they can figure out what

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works and and what doesn't. And, you know,

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it's it's not gonna be the first time you record a podcast is not gonna

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be the most amazing thing you've ever done. You're just gonna get better at it,

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and I I'm hoping he doesn't it doesn't sound like he's gonna quit. He's

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just kinda like, this isn't what I wanted. Well, okay. What did

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you want? What did you do? And what's the difference between the

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2? Randy says failure is feedback, and, feedback

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is the breakfast of champions. So there you go. And,

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Liberty Dude is really loving the fact that you, when you do the

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thumbs up and thumbs down and all the other I know

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you had fireworks going on. It's kind of fun.

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Although, can I tell can I tell a quick story about that? So Sure.

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This week, we were doing a I was doing a livestream

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of a very important work related report.

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We worked with the Lumina Foundation to do a bunch of, survey

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work around higher ed. And so it's a big deal. It's important.

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It was one of those kinds of things, like the suit and tie kind of

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thing. Right? And I'm not the greatest at suit and tie, but okay. It was

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like a suit and tie thing. It was in Washington, DC. I was producing it

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from from the, you know, home office here. And the contractor we

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had hired was using a Mac to livestream. I was

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I was feeding it into YouTube through StreamYard. We were just grabbing the feed through

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StreamYard. He was pushing in, going full screen with it. But I didn't think

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about the gestures that on the Mac. I just didn't think about

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it. What I should have given him was an RTMP code

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out of YouTube and let just let him do the full production off of the

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stuff. But when we were setting it up, I asked that question, and the

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person the the project manager at the time said, oh, no. No. No. Yeah. StreamR

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would be fine. And it's like, are you sure you sure you don't want an

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RTMP code? I probably should've just set it up that way. And then Right.

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Knowing because once they gave him the link, they had broadcasted the link out, and

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they can't just change the link like, oh, yeah. Because we had 5 or

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600 people registered for this kind of thing. So right in the middle of

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it so we've got we've got a representative from department of education

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in in Washington, DC. He's kind of a mockety mock. You know, he's not the

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guy, but he's a guy. He's making a statement,

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and the thumbs down the the thumbs down emoji

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shows up because he he makes some kind of gesture.

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Like, he's obviously not going thumbs down. Right?

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Yeah. But, yeah, I'm like, that couldn't be any

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you know? And we're we're we're not, you know, at Gallup, we're supposed to

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be not biased and providing for right? And then all of a

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sudden, this thumb down thumbs down shows up for the department

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of education guy. I was like, that couldn't have been any worse timing

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to have gestures. So I'm I ping the guy behind the scenes, the guy in

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DC. And I'm like, hey. Can you turn off the gestures? And I

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get, thanks, Apple. That's the that was the, idea.

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So it was one of those talk about failures. I mean, is that a complete

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failure? Going back to what we're talking about, is that a complete failure? No.

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Probably not. He actually then I asked him, do you have a clean feed of

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this thing? He's like, absolutely. I'm recording this here if you guys want the

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clean feed without the gestures that are in it. You can you can absolutely

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have that. But it it just was in that moment, I was

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just like, how could it have been any worse to get the thumbs down?

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There, I had seen the thumbs up once before, and I was like, oh, okay.

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I'll just let that go. That's not a big deal. But the thumbs down

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didn't quite work out. Didn't quite That's not good. Yeah.

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Oopsie. Yeah. Exactly. Jeff says, I'm actually getting ready

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to turn on my Apple TV just for this special. Says Steve

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Martin's new document on Apple is really good. He shared how hard he

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tried and all the things he failed at until he hit it big.

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And the the interesting thing, especially if you were around for Steve Martin,

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was he, what, I guess, late seventies, early eighties? Yeah. But he looked did you

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notice he had gray hair already Oh, yeah. In those days. Yeah. Yeah. I feel

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like he's been around forever. He was, like, 17, and he had gray hair in

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there. But Yeah. Yeah. But my favorite thing is I was watching

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some documentary on him and I've read his book. His book is amazing.

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And he explains that he didn't do it

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purposely, but he ended up doing comedy with

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no punch line. And I'm like, you know, he kinda did. I remember

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I was all of, I don't know, 11 or 12 or probably when

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this came out. And he was doing his comedy thing, you know, and he's doing

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it. And all of a sudden, he's like, okay. And he goes, okay. Hey.

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Grandpa bought a rubber. Yeah. That was it. And

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me and my friend would cry when we heard I don't know

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why we thought it was so, but it was just it's just a phrase you

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didn't hear put together. And oh, my yeah. So

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and it's weird. Small when it that his skin getting small. You

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could probably quote half that album. Right? That was and that's like a 1000

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years ago. You know? Yeah. One time I got this inside the vacuum cleaner. Got

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inside the vacuum cleaner. I retained the shape of a vacuum

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cleaner for 3 weeks. And it wore off. Yeah. Yeah. It's just hilarious

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in the day. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's one of those things

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that you just it's kind of weird. I

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actually was talking I did another presentation about this that one of the

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things I think I don't think it's good, but we're so

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used to having the next thing. Like like

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music right now is so weird. Like, I will I will get a band that

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I like. Like, the Black Crowes came out with an album, a new one. It's

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the first new music in a while, and it's actually not bad. There's, like, 4

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songs there, but I think I've listened to it three

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times. And I'm kind of, like, alright. What else you

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got? It's just where in the back in the day, I would be sitting there

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listening with headphones on, reading the liner notes. We just appreciated

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it more, and I must have listened to Steve Martin's album, like, 8,000,000

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times. Oh. You know? It's a little scandalous. It's a little scandalous.

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He he was clean for the most part, but he referenced some

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drug stuff and, you know Oh, yeah. It was my parents were on

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I mean, Nate Benghazi says, I had Christian parents, and

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they were the most Christian, is what he said. And I definitely

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had the most Christian parents. Yeah. And,

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Steve Martin. We weren't even allowed to listen to George Carlin. That

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was not no. That was a no. I still

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don't understand how because I think I was No. Yeah. I think I was

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7 when occupation fool came out, which had the 7 dirty

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words. And I remember listening to that living room like the whole

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family was listening to it, and they're just kind of like, now don't say those

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words. Those are not for you. And then I remember my brother was listening

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to Richard Pryor in the basement one day, and I walked

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in and he just came over and just shoved me out the door and closed

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it. He's like, you can't hear this. And I later went back and listened to

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that album. I'm like, oh, yeah. You're right. I shouldn't be listening to that. But

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when it comes to, Steve Martin, Jeff says he's the reason I started playing the

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banjo. Mhmm. Yeah. I'm rambling, man. Yeah.

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R a m p l I. Apostrophe rambling.

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Well, that and the one thing people Steve asked me, Steve,

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how can you be so funny? And he's like, it's all about

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timing to time timing time. And he's like again, it's

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yeah. Yeah. He is a really good banjo player. So

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Oh, for sure. Yeah. For sure. He played his banjo a lot. He was kinda

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in that he was kinda in that transition, in that stand up transition,

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and probably a pioneer and probably did some things he

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was misunderstood for in those days. I mean, it to that point, stand up comedy

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was more joke kind of, you know Yeah. Punch line.

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Yeah. And and he kind of I I don't wanna say pioneer. That's maybe giving

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him too much credit. But he did he did do a lot of that

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kind of just goofy, silly, you know,

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humor that that was and he was, of course, he was very

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physical humor oriented. Right? Oh, yeah. You'd see him in person, he did a little

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plot twist. Head. Lot of physical comedy. Yeah. That was

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the word. He was silly. And I in fact, in

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the documentary, I saw part of it. He said because he came out, like, in

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the late sixties where everything was anti war and very serious and political. And

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he's like, I just want to be silly. And that's where to kind of

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bring this back to podcasting, so many people look at

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what somebody's doing that's successful, and they're trying to

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do what they're doing. And in some cases because everybody

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else is doing that. Yeah. And so when you do something different,

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it makes you stand out. I always point at Adele

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and, you know, everybody else is singing in their underwear and all

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their songs sounds the same. You know, if it's I don't know about you,

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but every song that is remotely

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has a has a just a hint of Latina in it. It's

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every song. And it's like and then did I'm like, okay. Can

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we get it at least a different beat? Like, it's just the same thing over

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and over. And when you zag when everybody else is zigging, you stand

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out. And so Adele came out with this amazing voice. She stood there in a

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dress and sang, and people are like, this is amazing. And I was like, yeah.

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Well, it's different. And so sometimes I think

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when we try to emulate somebody who's doing really well,

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it's too late. They've already cornered the market on that. And by the time

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you get to where they are, they're off to doing something different or you

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know? Can I disagree with you for just a second? And not a not a

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hardcore dish thing. Not a hard club. We're not gonna I'm sorry. Thank you. Good

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night. We're done, people. Good night, everybody.

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No. I'm dying to hear it. You know me. No. I think listen. I think

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you're right in the sense that by the time if you like,

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when Michael Buble Buble came out Yeah. And brought that

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kind of Frank Sinatra style back, right, with a new twist

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on it. Right? Then there were a bunch of copycats. Right? And I

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don't I don't think either are wrong. I don't think, like I

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think some of us need to be pioneers and we need to try new things

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because that's hard. That's actually what the hardest form of

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entertainment is to do something brand new. You're

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gonna get naysayers. You don't know if it's gonna work. Your chance is to be

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a story or large. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's gonna

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be successful. Like, it's hard, and only some of

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us are built that way. But I do think there are there is a

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space for once that genre has been established.

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Michael comes out, puts out whatever album he does. He he starts

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touring. All of a sudden, we start seeing these different voices

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come that are really basically just doing what he did. I think

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there's a space for that because I think there's some artistic ability in that.

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And then sometimes the leader isn't always the best one. Like,

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sometimes you have somebody who comes out and leads with that, and then you have

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another person who comes behind and really blows that out.

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Right? Really kinda blows out the thing. So I would say, I

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wouldn't say once, and I know you didn't mean it this way, but once

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somebody has come out and cornered the market to use your term, you should not

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and and if you wanna do it that way, you shouldn't. Yeah. You you

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I think you can. Now realize you're gonna be in a field of a whole

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bunch of people. Right? That's the draw Right. You're not the leader on

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it. So you're now the challenge is the competition that you're gonna have

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with all these people trying to be and I shouldn't have used Michael Buble

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because I can't I can't ever say his name. So I should've said something else.

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But Michael Buble. Think of yeah. Bubble. Michael

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Buble. So, you know, think of all the Michael Jackson, you

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know, copied hats that came out afterwards. There were some

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that were successful in that. So I would hate to I'd hate

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to see us, you know we'd have 1 rock band if we only

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had, you know, after the Beatles. If we only had

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The Beatles, we would had only 1 rock band. And that was

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Dan brings up a great point. He says Adele was actually inspired by

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Amy Amy Winehouse. I guess there's a new biopic

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out on her now. So some might say she didn't start that,

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which actually, if you you know who's the best at this? Apple.

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Right? Microsoft would come out with something, and then Apple would be like,

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oh, you know, here's here's the Zune. And people go, oh. And

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then I think, actually, the Zune came out after the iPhone or whatever. IPad would

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give me a better example. Microsoft had tablets before.

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They were PCs, then the iPad came out and said just blew them away

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for sure. Yeah. And then, you know, if we go back in time, Amy

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Winehouse was inspired by Billie Holiday. You know, the Beatles

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were inspired by Little Richard and Elvis. So yeah.

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And and that's where I think where it misses is when

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you're trying to be exactly like that band. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

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that's where you're like, wait, if I want to listen to Led Zeppelin, I would

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listen to Led Zeppelin. But thank you so much for trying kingdom come in the

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eighties, but, you know What do they what do they call that when not a

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tribute band. I it's called that. They have an they have a new name

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for, like, a band that sounds like the band that's come you

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know, like, they're touring. You know? What's the name of that? It's like a tribute,

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but what do they do you know? Do you know what they call it? No.

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That's what I call them. Tribute bands. I do a tribute band. You know, I

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just heard a commercial that I've I heard my first commercial for a Phil

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Collins tribute band, whatever. And Okay. He's I

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mean, he's not dead yet now. He's really close because he is hurting

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for sure. He's not in good shape. Yeah. It's a him before the pandemic

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and and that that that guy. But yeah. So, you know,

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the you you know you kinda made it. I think you know you made it

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when you have these bands come out that are inspired by you. I think it's

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fine. Right? I mean, I think it's fine. It's just know I think it's know

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your space. Know what you're doing in that and what you're doing. And

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if you got a creative spin cover band yeah. No. This is yeah. Shoot. There's

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in advertising now, there's a term that they use to to

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it was in the commercial. There's kind of a new ish term. Anyway, it doesn't

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matter. It doesn't really matter. Do you hear all Just b u. G You. Do

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you hear all the crap that Apple took about their new commercial? Mm-mm. I get

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it. It was weird. So it's called squish or squoosh

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or smash or something. It's still on YouTube. But

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what they did is they took all these old icons like

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a metronome and a Ms. Pac Man machine and, you know,

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all these little iconic toys and gadgets

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and, you know, phonographs and stuff, and they have this huge hydraulic

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press. And it's just squishing down, and you're seeing all these things just get

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smashed. And then in true Apple fashion, when it gets to the very bottom,

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colors shoot out the bottom. And when they they pull it

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up, they're like, it's the new iPad. It's thinner than ever,

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yada yada yada. And everybody's kinda like, yeah. But you destroyed

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my iconic toys. Like, they're upset that they

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smashed them. And I'm like and then some people go even deeper. They're

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like, usually, Apple is about creating,

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and this was about destruction and things like that. And are you trying to

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throw something on the screen? Yeah. As soon as you're done. As soon as you're

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done. Yeah. That's fine. No. I can do that. So I can I can do

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this, and in theory, I can make this does that gonna

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work like that? I think so. So experience is what I was looking

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for, the Phil Collins experience. Experience. Yes. Experience is

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what they and then this guy even look kinda looks like Phil

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Collins. Right? He's got really short, balding hair,

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and he's got the band set up like Phil does.

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I'm sure it's heavily licensed. Right? I am sure Oh, yeah. Yeah. If

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you're using his name well, I don't know. There's a lot of bands that you

432
00:26:43,725 --> 00:26:47,345
know, there's a, like, 8,000,000 kiss tribute bands. And

433
00:26:47,725 --> 00:26:51,405
I what's kind of sad, I hate in Akron, Ohio. They have

434
00:26:51,405 --> 00:26:55,190
a downtown area with a little stage. It's actually really cool. And the

435
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:58,789
only people they hire are cover bands. They're not even cover

436
00:26:58,789 --> 00:27:02,455
bands. They're, you know, rumors of Fleetwood Mac experience. And

437
00:27:02,535 --> 00:27:06,295
Yeah. You know, the boys are back in town. Is you know, it's like, really?

438
00:27:06,295 --> 00:27:10,090
Like, you're not gonna so because if I was there just getting a

439
00:27:10,090 --> 00:27:13,770
lot of run right now. The kids love Fleetwood Mac. That's that's

440
00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:17,150
the every once in a while, though, those bands that Transand

441
00:27:17,825 --> 00:27:21,605
transcend. Tran Yeah. That that Transcend. Names

442
00:27:22,544 --> 00:27:26,385
that transcend through time. And Fleetwood Mac is one of those that that

443
00:27:26,385 --> 00:27:29,860
just has for whatever reason I mean, my daughter one time was like

444
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:32,500
that one of their songs came on, and she was like, oh, oh, oh, oh,

445
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:36,125
leave it. Leave that. And I was Yeah. Looking at, like, you

446
00:27:36,125 --> 00:27:39,664
know Fleetwood Mac? She's kicking. Of course, they're awesome.

447
00:27:40,365 --> 00:27:44,205
So My my favorite ever is when I went back to get my teaching

448
00:27:44,205 --> 00:27:47,470
degree at the ripe old age of 42, and I, you know, I have to

449
00:27:47,470 --> 00:27:50,850
take the BS classes. So one was like music

450
00:27:51,789 --> 00:27:55,465
appreciation or something really stupid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the one. And so

451
00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:58,825
this this girl did a thing, and she talked about the Fleetwood

452
00:27:58,825 --> 00:28:02,505
Mac. And I was like, wow. You sound so 19 right

453
00:28:02,505 --> 00:28:06,150
now. The Fleetwood Mac. And then, of

454
00:28:06,150 --> 00:28:09,930
course, I got up and did a presentation on Chuck Berry and explained

455
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:13,985
that. And then also threw in the fact that he was arrested for putting cameras

456
00:28:13,985 --> 00:28:17,585
in the women's Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was like, hey. He's not always this

457
00:28:17,745 --> 00:28:21,450
yeah. Danny Brown says, Apple did kinda miss the room with,

458
00:28:21,690 --> 00:28:24,809
with that app. Yeah. There it was one of those where I was like, you

459
00:28:24,809 --> 00:28:28,570
know, because usually and this is one thing that you can learn from

460
00:28:28,570 --> 00:28:32,184
Apple. So many people Tom Webster had a

461
00:28:32,184 --> 00:28:34,825
article out a while back ago that said we need to come up with a

462
00:28:34,825 --> 00:28:38,505
better way of of describing our podcast. Because so many

463
00:28:38,505 --> 00:28:42,280
times I see so many people, like, get into the schedule. It comes out

464
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,120
every Wednesday Thursday. Like, I'm pretty sure it's like, well, I would have listened to

465
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,695
it if it came out on Tuesday Friday. But Wednesday, like, that's not a

466
00:28:49,695 --> 00:28:53,535
feature or that's not a benefit. That's a, I guess, a feature. You

467
00:28:53,535 --> 00:28:56,855
know? And so what you wanna do is sell the benefit. And so my fate

468
00:28:56,975 --> 00:29:00,720
wanna, like, if you a great It was a Christmas ad, and

469
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,480
you see this guy, this little kid taking videos throughout

470
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,065
Christmas. And then at the end, he's used Imovie or whatever to make this

471
00:29:08,065 --> 00:29:11,185
video that he then shows on the TV. And I think he had some old

472
00:29:11,185 --> 00:29:14,940
videos of grandma, and everybody's crying at the end. But it was Apple's great

473
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:18,700
on, like, look what you can do with this. Not so much, hey. It's

474
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:22,380
got the new M4 Chip and a blah blah blah processor. It was

475
00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:25,965
like, look what it can do. And people go, well, I want to do that.

476
00:29:25,965 --> 00:29:29,565
And so they go out and buy it. And this one was just

477
00:29:29,565 --> 00:29:32,784
more like the big feature of it was what? It's thin.

478
00:29:33,890 --> 00:29:37,670
Okay. Because Mhmm. I was gonna use it before, but it was too thick.

479
00:29:37,890 --> 00:29:40,850
I'm like, you know, it's like the whole you know, the new phone has a

480
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:44,395
titanium case. I'm like, well, who is throwing their phone off of a cliff?

481
00:29:44,695 --> 00:29:47,735
Like, is that really a feature that we needed? I'm like, it still got a

482
00:29:47,735 --> 00:29:51,570
glass front. And as far as I know, that's the part that breaks. Like, if

483
00:29:51,570 --> 00:29:55,330
you can make some sort of unbreakable glass, that would be a feature I would

484
00:29:55,330 --> 00:29:58,950
want. So, yeah, sometimes we get a little lost with

485
00:29:59,605 --> 00:30:03,445
with our advertising when you can explain the benefits that

486
00:30:03,525 --> 00:30:07,125
and if it's a benefit people want because to me, oh, it's a thinner

487
00:30:07,125 --> 00:30:10,740
iPad. That's not gonna really make me wanna and I'm sure it's, you

488
00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:14,580
know, what? Buy 1, get 1 free? Oh, no. Wait. It's Apple. It's gonna

489
00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:18,385
be at least probably, you know, 8, $900. I'm not sure what the price tag

490
00:30:18,385 --> 00:30:22,065
is on that. So I don't know who's still buying iPads. Like

491
00:30:22,304 --> 00:30:26,139
That's it? You know? I because you can do it all on your phone.

492
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:29,960
You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Apparently. I don't apparently, they still are. I

493
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,399
mean, apparently, they're still I think they're they're in schools and some of those kinds

494
00:30:33,399 --> 00:30:37,092
of things. But it's been a it's been a while since I've seen iPads in

495
00:30:37,092 --> 00:30:40,765
the wild. I remember when they first came out, they're super popular. Everybody was

496
00:30:40,765 --> 00:30:43,610
buying them. Had to have an iPad. All the from all the friends that I

497
00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:47,370
worked with had to have them. And you'd go to, like, you'd go to

498
00:30:47,370 --> 00:30:50,485
events kids' events, know, kind of thing. You got one there? Is that is that

499
00:30:50,565 --> 00:30:53,365
Yeah. I got one. This is the this is, like, I think, version 2. Does

500
00:30:53,365 --> 00:30:57,000
it still turn on? It will turn on, but I have to charge it

501
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,680
first and then read very fast because the battery does

502
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,440
not last long. Yeah. Well, but but remember, there were pictures of

503
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,105
you'd be at at an event with kids, and all the moms and dads would

504
00:31:08,105 --> 00:31:11,144
have the iPads taking pictures with

505
00:31:12,585 --> 00:31:15,940
Yeah. Maybe that's been so maybe that's been

506
00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:19,620
replaced with this now of taking Yeah. Them because the pictures are so

507
00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:23,320
good off this, but it was those were those were

508
00:31:23,445 --> 00:31:27,144
bonkers. Those times were bonkers. Oh, go just Google

509
00:31:27,205 --> 00:31:30,804
Katy Perry live and watch the

510
00:31:30,804 --> 00:31:34,549
audience because nobody's actually enjoying the

511
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:38,149
concert. They're all filming it so they can watch the concert with really bad

512
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:41,995
audio later. Uh-huh. You know? I'm like, it's I just yeah. So

513
00:31:42,235 --> 00:31:46,075
We have the in the Collison house, we have a saying, we Walter Midi it.

514
00:31:46,075 --> 00:31:49,610
Now if you remember the Walter the movie Walter Midi, he tries

515
00:31:49,610 --> 00:31:53,210
to live or the the point of the movie is to live in the moment.

516
00:31:53,210 --> 00:31:56,810
And so sometimes we we we go to things

517
00:31:56,810 --> 00:32:00,625
intentionally and don't bring out the phones and don't take pictures because we

518
00:32:00,625 --> 00:32:04,144
just Right. Just wanna experience Wanna experience it. And it's Yeah.

519
00:32:04,225 --> 00:32:08,010
Wholeness, like just Walter Mideot. And I I was one

520
00:32:08,010 --> 00:32:10,890
better than the other? I don't know. But sometimes just to sit there with your

521
00:32:10,890 --> 00:32:14,650
own eyes, not worried about the camera or the sound or

522
00:32:14,650 --> 00:32:18,285
whatever. You know? Yeah. Do I need to zoom in? Is it in

523
00:32:18,285 --> 00:32:22,125
focus? Is it yeah. Just experience it. Something about just sitting there,

524
00:32:22,125 --> 00:32:25,480
taking a deep breath, bringing it in through your own

525
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,000
eyes, and then just remembering that moment that's

526
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,840
here. Yeah. Give yourself a brain tattoo, man. Just Yeah. Put

527
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,575
that memory in there. Exactly. That's what my friend calls it. Randy says,

528
00:32:36,575 --> 00:32:39,775
my 15 year old loves Queen Journey, the Eagles. Well, that's because he has you

529
00:32:39,775 --> 00:32:43,440
as a dad. You have a cool dad. John

530
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,799
Parker says a big resurgence with Fleetwood Mac is because of the

531
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,399
skateboarding, Ocean Spray. There was a commercial that had

532
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:54,205
that. Also, a lot of hard rock bands have covered the

533
00:32:54,205 --> 00:32:58,044
song The Chain, which it works really if you want to make

534
00:32:58,044 --> 00:33:01,630
a nice heavy. If you don't love them, and I was like, bang, bang. It's

535
00:33:01,630 --> 00:33:05,230
like, okay. That's cool. So, when I think of Phil

536
00:33:05,230 --> 00:33:09,025
Collins, I think of those 2 kids who hear his famous drum riff for

537
00:33:09,025 --> 00:33:10,405
the first time. Yep.

538
00:33:12,785 --> 00:33:16,625
Yeah. My youngest son is way into the seventies, Jim,

539
00:33:16,625 --> 00:33:20,279
says Chris from castahead.net. Thanks to the Gardens of the Galaxy.

540
00:33:20,419 --> 00:33:23,880
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. That brought back a lot of of of that era.

541
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:28,135
Yeah. Who's who's buying the new iPad? Ralph is from ask Ralph

542
00:33:28,135 --> 00:33:31,815
podcast.com. There you go. Yeah. I could see that. Gary says I've

543
00:33:31,815 --> 00:33:35,410
watched videos in bed with it. Yep. That's a good use of an iPad. Because

544
00:33:35,410 --> 00:33:38,610
I know when I watch Netflix on my phone, it's kinda like, alright. I'm getting

545
00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:42,290
the content, but it's kinda not the same. He says the

546
00:33:42,290 --> 00:33:46,005
screen is much better on the iPad as compared to the phone. Yeah. It

547
00:33:46,225 --> 00:33:49,605
is. So and wait. Well, maybe.

548
00:33:50,225 --> 00:33:54,005
Yeah. And Randy Randy works in IT. He says iPads

549
00:33:54,065 --> 00:33:57,840
out sell Macs 3 to 1. Sure. Yeah. For sure. But Macs don't

550
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,899
sell. But listen, Macs are still a boutique.

551
00:34:01,905 --> 00:34:05,745
They're not mainstream. You know, these Mac minis that you and I have, I mean

552
00:34:06,065 --> 00:34:09,844
Yeah. Yes. There are people who buy them, but they're not necessarily mainstream.

553
00:34:09,905 --> 00:34:13,610
It's not like a PC. And PCs aren't mainstream anymore. Everybody's doing stuff

554
00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:17,150
off their phones. So, I mean, it's Yeah. PC sales are way down.

555
00:34:17,449 --> 00:34:20,554
The PCs still rule the Earth, though. Let's just be really clear about that.

556
00:34:20,954 --> 00:34:24,635
Organizations buy PCs for now. Yeah. I think

557
00:34:24,714 --> 00:34:27,514
and I think most of them, the desktop is dead for the most part. I

558
00:34:27,514 --> 00:34:31,349
think most companies are just buying laptops for everyone. Laptops. Yeah.

559
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:34,889
Yeah. I think most. Yeah. Not every. I'm sure there's exceptions.

560
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:36,969
I look forward to your emails.

561
00:34:39,025 --> 00:34:42,724
Chris says they've lowered the price of the 9th generation iPad to $240.

562
00:34:43,505 --> 00:34:47,199
So it's worth having an appliance connected around the house, such as kitchen,

563
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,639
family. Yeah. At that price point, it's worth having on the kitchen table for just

564
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,239
for those kinds of things. And right now, Jim, we are on Rich

565
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,825
Graham's iPad as we as we told you. Nice. Nice. Very

566
00:34:57,825 --> 00:35:01,505
slow. Oh, no. Just very show. I thought it said very

567
00:35:01,505 --> 00:35:04,109
slow. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

568
00:35:06,970 --> 00:35:10,785
And then Dan says, again, from based on a true story podcast .com, I found

569
00:35:10,785 --> 00:35:14,225
in many cases, I experienced the moment a lot better when I'm capturing

570
00:35:14,225 --> 00:35:17,905
it instead of just watching it. I think there's a part I think that's

571
00:35:17,905 --> 00:35:21,569
FOMO because you want to, like, later go, man,

572
00:35:21,569 --> 00:35:25,010
I I should have recorded that. So I could see but I would do that.

573
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:28,195
I would, like, somehow point my phone at the thing, kind of do a quick,

574
00:35:28,275 --> 00:35:31,955
and then go back to just watching through my my eyes. I haven't been to

575
00:35:31,955 --> 00:35:35,795
a concert in forever anyway because I can't I mean, the tickets are

576
00:35:35,955 --> 00:35:39,600
you know, you're you're gonna shell out $200 easy by the time you

577
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,040
throw in parking and a t shirt. It's

578
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,805
crazy. And then Jeff says, I use my iPad every

579
00:35:46,805 --> 00:35:50,645
morning to consume content and read. I think that's it. Reading, watching

580
00:35:50,645 --> 00:35:54,005
movies, things like that. It would make sense. This audience is gonna be more

581
00:35:54,005 --> 00:35:57,720
Mac than anything. And and so many in in I think as

582
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,400
Ralph said or Ralph said, they're all over college campuses, and that's

583
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,195
true. But the mac only represents at best 16%

584
00:36:05,494 --> 00:36:08,955
of the of the com the computing space at best.

585
00:36:09,415 --> 00:36:13,069
16%. So it is among tech enthusiasts,

586
00:36:13,450 --> 00:36:16,589
among podcasters, maybe college students.

587
00:36:17,210 --> 00:36:20,430
But I tell you, it's in the in the in the corporate

588
00:36:21,115 --> 00:36:24,875
space, it's tiny. Tiny, tiny, tiny. Although, you

589
00:36:24,875 --> 00:36:28,555
know, 15, 16, even 20%, that's probably not

590
00:36:28,555 --> 00:36:32,160
tiny. It's a good chunk. Right? It's a 5th of the space.

591
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,920
Yeah. But but the Mac itself, when I think about just the computer itself. Now

592
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,305
if you take out if you add iPhone and iPad to that,

593
00:36:39,845 --> 00:36:43,285
oh, the whole the whole world changes at that point, but a

594
00:36:43,285 --> 00:36:47,125
16% share of the US personal computing market would not

595
00:36:47,125 --> 00:36:50,970
consider mainstream. Mainstream. That's just my Yeah. That's what I think.

596
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:54,630
Doctor says apple shmapple. Yeah. No. It's a good listen. It's a great device. I

597
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:58,265
think for podcasters, it's one of the best devices. You know, know, when you when

598
00:36:58,265 --> 00:37:01,865
you think about all the things that we have to do as podcasters, which is

599
00:37:01,865 --> 00:37:04,765
record, edit, render,

600
00:37:05,224 --> 00:37:08,930
publish, those things. Hands down, I think a

601
00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:12,450
Mac does it way better than a PC does. And so it's just I think

602
00:37:12,450 --> 00:37:16,255
it's just better designed for that. So for podcasters, I say it

603
00:37:16,255 --> 00:37:19,855
all the time. I think, you know now you and I have both. I've I'm

604
00:37:19,855 --> 00:37:22,575
running a Mac. What we're on right now is a Mac, but I have a

605
00:37:22,575 --> 00:37:26,250
PC that I use for non Me too. Things. Like, there's

606
00:37:26,250 --> 00:37:29,944
sometimes it doesn't have to be either or, by the way. You don't

607
00:37:29,944 --> 00:37:33,775
have to just have one. You could have both. You could do both. These

608
00:37:33,775 --> 00:37:37,235
wars between these marketing wars that were artificially generated,

609
00:37:37,855 --> 00:37:41,615
you know, combat zones for us to try to decide between, you know,

610
00:37:41,615 --> 00:37:45,360
Mac, PC, all those commercials. That's just marketing. Like, you can

611
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,200
you can have both. You can use both. They both have a place, and

612
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,704
one is not necessarily always better than the other. You know,

613
00:37:52,904 --> 00:37:56,744
your mileage might vary. Engage your brain. Use what you find is best. And

614
00:37:56,744 --> 00:38:00,530
whatever that is, use it. And Chris is

615
00:38:00,610 --> 00:38:03,730
we're getting all sorts of tips today. Wait till the day of the show to

616
00:38:03,730 --> 00:38:07,190
buy tickets because people dump their tickets, like, 24 hours before.

617
00:38:07,595 --> 00:38:11,275
Sometimes. You know? And Jeff had Jeff has a great point. He

618
00:38:11,275 --> 00:38:14,910
goes, I don't go to concerts. I can't stand them because I

619
00:38:14,910 --> 00:38:17,950
didn't pay to a lot of money to have somebody sing off key behind me.

620
00:38:17,950 --> 00:38:21,650
That's annoying. Yeah. That Taylor Swift concert. Right?

621
00:38:22,190 --> 00:38:24,785
I I was, yeah, I was embarrassed

622
00:38:25,805 --> 00:38:28,785
for a large part of the play

623
00:38:29,405 --> 00:38:33,110
Wicked because my ex wife and my stepdaughter

624
00:38:33,330 --> 00:38:35,990
loved that. They they played the soundtrack,

625
00:38:37,250 --> 00:38:40,775
like, to death. And we're in Wicked. It's a

626
00:38:40,775 --> 00:38:44,555
play. Like, we will be shushed if you don't stop singing.

627
00:38:44,615 --> 00:38:48,260
But they both had great voices. But, nonetheless, like, please

628
00:38:48,260 --> 00:38:51,540
quit singing, you know, and I'm I'm they're just looking at me like I'm a

629
00:38:51,540 --> 00:38:54,579
curmudgeon. I'm like, no. I'm pretty sure the people in front of you wanna hear

630
00:38:54,579 --> 00:38:58,325
the people on stage singing, and that was, We I

631
00:38:58,325 --> 00:39:01,925
watched a video of the Taylor Swift concert in Sydney, I think, or

632
00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:04,940
Melbourne. One of those 2. I forget. I think it was Melbourne maybe. And it

633
00:39:04,940 --> 00:39:08,780
was some some record setting crowd or whatever. And Right. It was

634
00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:12,400
from a phone, obviously. Someone was recording it. And all the

635
00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:16,355
people we'll just say that. All the people around this phone are singing,

636
00:39:16,495 --> 00:39:20,335
and it is just like, you you can't even hear it. You can't even hear

637
00:39:20,335 --> 00:39:24,130
Taylor. And it's it is some of the worst sing. I mean,

638
00:39:24,130 --> 00:39:27,970
they are literally shouting Right. At this. And it's

639
00:39:27,970 --> 00:39:31,755
great. It's listen, that's their concert experience. I'm sure it's great,

640
00:39:31,755 --> 00:39:35,595
but then don't post that video to YouTube because it was just

641
00:39:35,595 --> 00:39:39,350
like it was His back. Cringy. It It was listen. I'm an

642
00:39:39,350 --> 00:39:43,030
I'm an old guy trying to I wanna see what these concerts are

643
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:45,530
like. Don't sing into the microphone.

644
00:39:47,055 --> 00:39:50,895
Yeah. My favorite going going back to Apple. Yeah. What

645
00:39:50,895 --> 00:39:54,595
what happens is you buy one device. Right? And you're like, okay.

646
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,400
And then I was gonna was it gonna be a Fitbit, or do I buy

647
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,160
an Apple Watch? And Fitbit lost all my data. Like, they literally just

648
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,944
like, sorry. And I'm like, can I get a backup? They're like, nope. And I'm

649
00:40:04,944 --> 00:40:08,785
like, okay. Well, I'm going to an iWatch then. So I bought my iWatch,

650
00:40:08,785 --> 00:40:12,244
and the first time I went to log in to PodcastConnect,

651
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,960
and I could type in the number, or I could just double click on my

652
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,640
watch, I went, oh, this is worth every penny. It's so

653
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,345
stupid. Right? Or if I'm listening to podcast and I'm on my

654
00:40:24,505 --> 00:40:28,265
I got my phone in my pocket and I wanna pause or something, I can

655
00:40:28,265 --> 00:40:31,410
do it on my watch from riding my bike. So that's where you start to

656
00:40:31,410 --> 00:40:34,869
see like, I love the fact that I went to post my pictures

657
00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:38,369
from Content Entrepreneur Expo that I was at this

658
00:40:38,369 --> 00:40:42,025
week, and I could just airdrop my pictures to my

659
00:40:42,025 --> 00:40:45,705
Mac Mini and then post them there. Because I I I'd hate trying to see

660
00:40:45,705 --> 00:40:49,380
which photo is which on the phone. And so when you get multiple

661
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,360
Apple devices is when you go, oh, and that's why they have if you think

662
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,115
about it, Apple people are super loyal. You know, if they came out if

663
00:40:57,115 --> 00:41:00,955
they, like Marketing. On a PC yeah. With PC, I could have an

664
00:41:00,955 --> 00:41:03,515
HP. I could have a Dell. I could have whatever. They all do the same

665
00:41:03,515 --> 00:41:07,150
thing. It's just like, what's the cheapest one? What can I get? How much hardware

666
00:41:07,150 --> 00:41:10,849
can I get for this much money? And they don't really care. With Apple,

667
00:41:11,230 --> 00:41:14,654
it's and they've been smart with that. They don't I don't know if they've has

668
00:41:14,654 --> 00:41:17,654
has there ever been an Apple clone? Like, has somebody bought

669
00:41:18,575 --> 00:41:21,930
not recently because they make so much money. They have 10 1,000,000

670
00:41:22,070 --> 00:41:25,850
lawyers. And if you even get close to them, you know,

671
00:41:26,070 --> 00:41:29,305
it's hard to forget or easy to remember one of those 2. There was a

672
00:41:29,305 --> 00:41:33,005
day when Apple almost was not anymore.

673
00:41:33,464 --> 00:41:36,605
And Microsoft Yeah. I remember that. Infused. Right? Microsoft

674
00:41:37,369 --> 00:41:41,130
infused a bunch of money into them to keep them alive because Microsoft in the

675
00:41:41,210 --> 00:41:44,865
was in the middle of some antitrust problems. Like, the

676
00:41:44,865 --> 00:41:48,625
the US government and the EU are getting ready to say to try

677
00:41:48,625 --> 00:41:52,385
to break them up. Right? And so they're like, well, here, Apple. Here's a

678
00:41:52,385 --> 00:41:55,839
bunch of money. We also have to remember they fired Steve Jobs the first

679
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:59,680
time. Yeah. That's what Dan says. Right? You know, you're

680
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,395
like, it's not as clean. I think, you know,

681
00:42:03,395 --> 00:42:07,155
the phone space has also gotten this way with with iPhone versus Android.

682
00:42:07,155 --> 00:42:10,675
Right? And and, again, each one of those operating systems has a

683
00:42:10,675 --> 00:42:14,220
purpose. I I would not I carried an Android phone for a lot of

684
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:17,260
years, and it just would heat up to the temperature of their sun, and it

685
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:20,915
was just never really worked well for me. I got the iPhone, and it

686
00:42:20,915 --> 00:42:24,515
just worked. And I was like, good. It works for me. That's now I

687
00:42:24,515 --> 00:42:28,080
use for home automation stuff. I'll I prefer Android,

688
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:31,740
one, because I can get if I'm using it solely for that

689
00:42:31,740 --> 00:42:35,580
purpose, I can get a iPad or I can get a

690
00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:39,405
tablet for a 5th of the price is I would put it on an

691
00:42:39,405 --> 00:42:42,525
iPad. So if I've I was going to take an iPad and mount it somewhere,

692
00:42:42,525 --> 00:42:46,240
so it had some home automation monitoring, so to speak. Right? Which

693
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,920
is it Android's really good for this. Yeah. Why pay

694
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,760
iPad prices for something that I'm not gonna use in that way? Android

695
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,425
works great. I got a little tablet, whatever the Walmart brand

696
00:42:57,425 --> 00:43:01,265
is on or home or whatever it is. Right? I bought one

697
00:43:01,265 --> 00:43:05,025
of those for $79. It works perfectly for that

698
00:43:05,025 --> 00:43:08,450
for that case. So I I always like to think don't don't

699
00:43:08,609 --> 00:43:12,369
listen. Brand is great. It's great. Right? Most reasons

700
00:43:12,369 --> 00:43:15,984
brand is so strong is because of marketing. But Right. Use the

701
00:43:15,984 --> 00:43:19,664
tool that's best for you that works in that. And and, you know,

702
00:43:19,664 --> 00:43:23,505
in in some cases, it's gonna be different than what other people say, but use

703
00:43:23,505 --> 00:43:27,310
the one that works for you. Right. Danny says from Captivate, I prefer

704
00:43:27,310 --> 00:43:30,990
the choice of not being locked into any ecosystem. I love my Mac. But

705
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:34,575
apart from that, I'm good with using multiple options for sure for the benefit they

706
00:43:34,575 --> 00:43:37,855
offer. Yeah. I mean, I I have both like you have. That way, if somebody

707
00:43:38,015 --> 00:43:41,055
for me, I need it in case the customer is like, I'm using something that

708
00:43:41,055 --> 00:43:44,670
only works on a PC. Well, I've got to have a PC to troubleshoot

709
00:43:44,670 --> 00:43:48,050
that. Brad said I was at one of the last KISS concerts,

710
00:43:48,510 --> 00:43:51,895
and, yeah, it was kind of pricey. And, of course, they're not gonna

711
00:43:51,895 --> 00:43:55,575
be cartoon characters or whatever in the future. But that's like,

712
00:43:55,575 --> 00:43:59,175
you're never gonna see us again, unless we do this. I'm

713
00:43:59,175 --> 00:44:02,869
like, okay. Okay. Eagles. Yeah. Exactly. Whatever.

714
00:44:03,250 --> 00:44:06,850
Whatever. Well and they got busted. Don Henley got busted

715
00:44:06,850 --> 00:44:10,385
lip syncing. That's not good when you're paying a $100 a ticket.

716
00:44:11,085 --> 00:44:14,845
Rich says years ago they had Apple clones power something or

717
00:44:14,845 --> 00:44:18,460
whatever. And then, yeah, s p says Apple clones exist

718
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,280
in non western world countries. So get your knock off in, you

719
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,545
know, Gazzakistan or something of that nature. So

720
00:44:26,105 --> 00:44:29,405
More likely India. But, you know, you yeah. Yeah.

721
00:44:30,744 --> 00:44:34,450
Anyway, let's, here's another question. This one is

722
00:44:34,450 --> 00:44:38,290
about getting clients from your podcast, and he says, I'm looking

723
00:44:38,290 --> 00:44:41,970
for help with my podcast, either a podcast manager who will help me get

724
00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:45,335
more clients from it. If I go this route, I clearly need someone who will

725
00:44:45,335 --> 00:44:49,175
increase my revenue to cover the cost of hiring them or someone to help

726
00:44:49,175 --> 00:44:52,570
with marketing. Do you have any recommendations? And I

727
00:44:52,810 --> 00:44:56,570
unfortunately, this was from, I think, Reddit or whatever. But if you

728
00:44:56,570 --> 00:45:00,305
want clients from your podcast, do a podcast about

729
00:45:00,305 --> 00:45:03,985
the thing you're trying to get clients on would seem to, you know

730
00:45:04,225 --> 00:45:07,925
Ralph is trying to get clients for his accounting business.

731
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,880
He's not doing a show about NASCAR. You know what I mean? It's like that

732
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,320
would be, I think, step number 1. Number 2, make

733
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,145
sure you let your audience know you do that

734
00:45:19,145 --> 00:45:22,925
kind of stuff. I've probably told this story before, but I helped

735
00:45:23,225 --> 00:45:26,960
a friend of mine launch a podcast And I'd known her for about 6 months.

736
00:45:27,099 --> 00:45:29,660
She did her podcast for about 6 months. So I'd known her for about a

737
00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:33,395
year, and I'm like, how's the podcast going? And she's like, well, it's going good.

738
00:45:33,395 --> 00:45:36,915
The numbers are going up, but I'm not getting any speaking gigs. And I

739
00:45:36,915 --> 00:45:40,595
go, you do speaking gigs? I've known you for a year. I've never heard you

740
00:45:40,595 --> 00:45:43,960
talk about speaking gigs in person or on your podcast.

741
00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:47,460
And she said, I don't wanna feel sales y. And I said, all you have

742
00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:50,985
to do is say something like, I was speaking to a bunch of kids in

743
00:45:50,985 --> 00:45:54,585
the Bronx this week, and this young man came up and asked me a question.

744
00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,945
And I thought, oh, that'd be a a good question for the podcast. I go,

745
00:45:57,945 --> 00:46:01,480
there. You just let your let your audience know that you do speaking.

746
00:46:02,420 --> 00:46:06,020
And so, I mean, you guys are trying to get customers from

747
00:46:06,020 --> 00:46:09,665
your your shows over at Gallup. I mean, I'm assuming you have a

748
00:46:09,665 --> 00:46:13,025
call to action in there to buy the StrengthsFinder's book or

749
00:46:13,025 --> 00:46:16,240
something. My old ones. You know? Wanna remind every I always say at the end

750
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,900
of the show, I wanna remind everyone to take full advantage of all the resources

751
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,860
we have available in Gallup Access. Head out to my.gallup.com.

752
00:46:22,765 --> 00:46:26,445
I don't actually ever say buy CliftonStrengths. That's

753
00:46:26,445 --> 00:46:30,205
something we just we I'm not saying we deemphasize it,

754
00:46:30,205 --> 00:46:33,980
but we want people to do it because they wanna do it. I don't wanna

755
00:46:33,980 --> 00:46:37,500
trick them or, you know, it's just it's a it's a

756
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,275
softer sell, so to speak. Right? And then I'll throw in we

757
00:46:41,275 --> 00:46:45,115
have some what what maybe we'll have some just in time, you know,

758
00:46:45,115 --> 00:46:48,555
call to actions. We have a summit every summer that we do. Sometimes we're trying

759
00:46:48,555 --> 00:46:52,180
to emphasize There there's the there's the thumbs up. So, yeah,

760
00:46:52,180 --> 00:46:55,960
I throw those in in at the end. Follow us on any social, you know,

761
00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:59,744
follow us on any social platform by searching for CliftonStrengths.

762
00:46:59,885 --> 00:47:03,325
I wanna thank you for joining us today. So we keep it pretty mild on

763
00:47:03,325 --> 00:47:07,165
the on the CTAs for that. Even though it's a business, we we're

764
00:47:07,165 --> 00:47:10,750
hoping the content does what it should, which is inspire

765
00:47:10,750 --> 00:47:14,590
people to do whatever whatever they need. Right?

766
00:47:14,590 --> 00:47:18,424
Again, we're not trying to necessarily prescribe, you

767
00:47:18,424 --> 00:47:22,025
need to go buy this, but say, hey. What's your problems? I bet we have

768
00:47:22,025 --> 00:47:25,799
a solution for you. Yeah. And then the other thing you can

769
00:47:25,799 --> 00:47:28,700
do, and you have to be careful with this one,

770
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:32,555
is have guests who should be

771
00:47:33,175 --> 00:47:36,695
your clients. So if you're doing a a show about your

772
00:47:36,695 --> 00:47:40,430
industry and you find out about this person, then they can bring

773
00:47:40,430 --> 00:47:44,130
value to your audience, then you use, basically,

774
00:47:44,190 --> 00:47:47,630
the podcast as an icebreaker, and you get to know them. And once the

775
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:51,265
interview is over, you're like, oh, that was great. Thanks so much. Who's

776
00:47:51,905 --> 00:47:55,505
who are you using for this type of service? And they go, well, I'm not

777
00:47:55,505 --> 00:47:58,700
using anybody. And they go, oh, well, if you ever need help with that, you

778
00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:02,060
know, that's something I do, and I've heard people do that. I've also heard people

779
00:48:02,060 --> 00:48:05,755
go, what I feel is a little and this is where

780
00:48:05,755 --> 00:48:09,355
you have to go back to your what's my why. But I've heard people,

781
00:48:09,355 --> 00:48:13,035
like, they don't care if the guest brings any value at all. They could care

782
00:48:13,035 --> 00:48:16,770
less about the audience. They're just trying to get clients, and they're like,

783
00:48:16,770 --> 00:48:20,289
it's working. I'm getting people to come on my show. I pitch them hard and

784
00:48:20,289 --> 00:48:23,415
heavy at the end of the interview. Then I get the client. I could care

785
00:48:23,415 --> 00:48:27,015
less. Like, they almost don't need the podcast. They just the podcast is just giving

786
00:48:27,015 --> 00:48:30,770
them a reason to reach out and, you know, get the the ball rolling.

787
00:48:30,770 --> 00:48:33,410
And I'm kind of like, yeah. But what about the content for the audience? And

788
00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:37,170
they're like, I don't care. I'm making money. And I'm like, well, oh,

789
00:48:37,170 --> 00:48:40,695
okay. I guess if that's your why. But I'm I'm always

790
00:48:41,234 --> 00:48:44,835
prone to making sure the audience doesn't waste their time or, you know,

791
00:48:44,835 --> 00:48:48,369
but it is what it is. So the other

792
00:48:48,369 --> 00:48:51,730
thing I wanted to I just saw I pinned

793
00:48:51,730 --> 00:48:55,474
this, and I want to say thanks for Craig. Craig says,

794
00:48:55,635 --> 00:48:59,474
hey. Thanks for episode 3 of the Your Podcast website. It

795
00:48:59,474 --> 00:49:03,015
really helped me. This is where I interviewed an actual designer,

796
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,760
and he goes through, like we just talked about, knowing your why, and

797
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,520
that's really it. When I, for years, when you went to the

798
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,165
school of podcasting.com, it had the latest episodes. And I'm

799
00:49:15,165 --> 00:49:18,765
gonna say probably 3 or 4 years ago, I switched it. Now when you go

800
00:49:18,765 --> 00:49:22,559
to the school of podcasting.com, the front page is basically a

801
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:25,920
sales page trying to get you to sign up with a link to episodes at

802
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,040
the top. So you have to ask yourself, am I a podcast that has a

803
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,645
business or a business that has a podcast? There's a great book called

804
00:49:32,645 --> 00:49:36,325
StoryBrand by Don Miller. I think it's Don. It's something

805
00:49:36,325 --> 00:49:39,960
Miller. And, yeah, Don, not Dan. Don Miller. And he

806
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,079
talks about when you go to somebody's websites, if you look at it for, say,

807
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:46,460
10 seconds, maybe not even that, you should know

808
00:49:46,934 --> 00:49:50,135
what the website's about. You shouldn't have to go to the about page and things

809
00:49:50,135 --> 00:49:53,654
like that. And so thanks for listening, Craig. It's, that was a good

810
00:49:53,654 --> 00:49:57,170
episode. Things too, like, if you want to if you think about

811
00:49:57,170 --> 00:50:00,710
it, you know, somebody goes to buy something, so they bust out their wallet

812
00:50:00,930 --> 00:50:04,665
and they get the credit card on the the thank you page or

813
00:50:04,665 --> 00:50:08,425
the success page, you know, whatever the page it goes to after the credit card

814
00:50:08,425 --> 00:50:12,190
page goes through, make a video that says, hey. Thanks so much

815
00:50:12,190 --> 00:50:15,869
for buying the yada yada yada. Hey. I just want to let you know while

816
00:50:15,869 --> 00:50:19,285
you're here. I have a special deal on such and such.

817
00:50:19,285 --> 00:50:23,125
Like, on the School of Podcasting, I started this about 6 months ago, where

818
00:50:23,125 --> 00:50:26,870
when you sign up for the School of Podcasting, it's like, oh, by the way,

819
00:50:27,010 --> 00:50:30,610
I've got a deal where you can get $5 off my book and it'll be

820
00:50:30,610 --> 00:50:34,385
signed. And I've sold more books that way than I have

821
00:50:34,385 --> 00:50:37,985
just from the website because why? Because the credit card is in their

822
00:50:37,985 --> 00:50:41,665
hand. And so a lot of great little tips that there wasn't like

823
00:50:41,665 --> 00:50:45,010
here's a new thing to do. I mean, it's new because you're not doing it,

824
00:50:45,070 --> 00:50:48,670
but you just heard it and went, oh, yeah. That makes sense. And

825
00:50:48,670 --> 00:50:52,284
so it's, I'm having fun with that show. I just started it, and I'll

826
00:50:52,284 --> 00:50:56,049
be talking about that on The School of Podcasting because I'm measuring the crap

827
00:50:56,049 --> 00:50:59,816
out of it. Because, you know, when people go, I want I'd love

828
00:50:59,816 --> 00:51:03,430
to have a 25% growth. Well, when you start off with 20, you know,

829
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:07,210
25% of that is, like, 1. So it gets kind of

830
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:11,265
crazy that way. But, speaking of being thankful, I should

831
00:51:11,265 --> 00:51:15,025
say thanks to our awesome supporters. You can be

832
00:51:15,025 --> 00:51:18,325
an awesome supporter like Jody. Jody's awesome.

833
00:51:18,810 --> 00:51:22,650
Again, if we go over to let me do this, real quick. You should

834
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:25,710
be an awesome supporter like Jody over at voiceoversandvocals.com.

835
00:51:28,265 --> 00:51:31,065
And I just realized that in a minute, we're gonna have to do the wheel

836
00:51:31,065 --> 00:51:34,904
of names. Yes. And I forgot and I forgot to add Jody. So you'll get

837
00:51:34,904 --> 00:51:38,530
to see how to add somebody to the wheel of names

838
00:51:38,530 --> 00:51:41,170
because I'll have to it just dawned on me. I'm like, oh, I didn't update

839
00:51:41,170 --> 00:51:44,369
that. So and this show is brought to you by speaking of the school of

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try podpage. Com. That's my affiliate link. Or if you wanna learn it,

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you can go to learn podpage.com. That's a free course I have.

847
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And right now, I'm using Ecamm. It's a great tool

848
00:52:14,180 --> 00:52:18,020
for live streaming and making tutorials, in my case. If you go to

849
00:52:18,020 --> 00:52:21,305
ask the podcast coach.com/ecamm, and that's

850
00:52:21,685 --> 00:52:25,445
ecamm because, it's so good. And if you need more

851
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Jim Collison, and who doesn't? Let's face it. Check him out over at the

852
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average guy dot tv. And it is. It's time

853
00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:36,345
for the wheel of names. And it's

854
00:52:36,405 --> 00:52:40,165
it's so easy to do. If I can get the 8,000,000 Ecamm windows

855
00:52:40,165 --> 00:52:43,525
out of my face here, I'm just going to write her name. And Jody, I

856
00:52:43,525 --> 00:52:47,010
will add your your artwork next week. It just dawned on me. But I would

857
00:52:47,010 --> 00:52:50,849
just go here and put in, I'll press enter, and

858
00:52:50,849 --> 00:52:54,605
we'll put in voice. What was her voiceovers

859
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and vocals and vocals.com.

860
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:04,240
And in theory, if I press enter, she should show up on

861
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,680
Yep. The blue one coming up to the top. The blue one. There we go.

862
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,525
Yep. Yep. Beautiful. Voiceovers and vocals.com. We'll do

863
00:53:11,525 --> 00:53:15,285
a little shuffle. Could she get, you know, beginner's luckier? That's

864
00:53:15,285 --> 00:53:18,185
red. Here we go. Oh, now it's red. Well, that's interesting.

865
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:23,190
And It must pick a random color. It must

866
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:27,725
it is no. Seriously? It is. The luckiest

867
00:53:27,785 --> 00:53:31,465
guys ever. Radio Free

868
00:53:31,465 --> 00:53:35,180
Pro Wrestling. Yeah. I think this is their 3rd week. They've

869
00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:38,880
they've they've won a lot. And so if you're into pro wrestling

870
00:53:39,579 --> 00:53:42,940
and, you know, you wanna watch people smash chairs and all that other

871
00:53:42,940 --> 00:53:46,735
fun, you know, snapping into a Slim Jim. That's really dated

872
00:53:46,735 --> 00:53:50,495
at this point. You can check it out over at

873
00:53:50,495 --> 00:53:54,150
Radio Free Pro Wrestling, and I'll put a link to that in the show

874
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:57,750
notes. So everyone over there you know what? And that's a great

875
00:53:57,750 --> 00:54:01,555
example just of a niche. Right? And if you wanna check

876
00:54:01,555 --> 00:54:05,315
out that stuff, well, you know, there's a podcast for that. So thank you so

877
00:54:05,315 --> 00:54:09,140
much for your support. You can be an awesome supporter by going

878
00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:12,980
over to ask the podcast coach.com/support. And you're like,

879
00:54:12,980 --> 00:54:15,940
well, why would I do that? Well, maybe I saved you some time or money

880
00:54:15,940 --> 00:54:19,385
or some headaches. Maybe I keep you educated. Maybe it's just so

881
00:54:19,385 --> 00:54:23,145
doggone entertaining. And where else are you gonna sit there and talk about Phil

882
00:54:23,145 --> 00:54:26,890
Collins for a while? For sure. You know, then go rasp podcast.

883
00:54:26,890 --> 00:54:30,730
Go to Tom. That's it. And I'm gonna see if I can

884
00:54:30,730 --> 00:54:33,530
do this because I see you got your screen. Yeah. What's I'm going to try

885
00:54:33,530 --> 00:54:37,045
to just if I click on solo, does this just get rid of us?

886
00:54:37,345 --> 00:54:41,025
Let's see. No. It does not. Can I let me drag this

887
00:54:41,025 --> 00:54:43,840
over here so I can I have to un

888
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,640
undo the scene because Talking about a couple weeks ago, I've always struggled with my

889
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,325
lighting here in the studio? It's been okay. I I this is an

890
00:54:52,325 --> 00:54:55,765
area I need to learn still learn a lot about. But I wanted to try

891
00:54:55,765 --> 00:54:59,224
some of these new, you know, new, LED,

892
00:54:59,685 --> 00:55:03,100
you know, kind of the inexpensive diffused LED

893
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:06,780
lights. And so I picked up back well, I guess it was back in April

894
00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:10,615
now. Picked up a a 2 pack of these. The brand name doesn't

895
00:55:10,615 --> 00:55:14,055
matter. They all come from China. They're all they're all fairly inexpensive. These

896
00:55:14,055 --> 00:55:17,720
were $75, and I think Amazon right now

897
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:21,320
is running you get a $15 coupon with them. If you choose them right now,

898
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,280
I'll throw the link a little bit later in the in the chat. And they're

899
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,885
not smart. In fact, you gotta turn them on by hand. You know, you gotta

900
00:55:27,885 --> 00:55:31,645
go to the back. What? Yes. They do they do

901
00:55:31,964 --> 00:55:35,490
amazing, isn't it? They do come with 8,000 milliamp

902
00:55:35,550 --> 00:55:39,350
hour battery in each one of them, and they're 20 watts. So they pull

903
00:55:39,350 --> 00:55:42,785
a little power. They're USB power. We talked a little bit about this last night

904
00:55:42,785 --> 00:55:46,464
or a couple nights ago on Home Gage Geeks. But 20 watts for USB is

905
00:55:46,464 --> 00:55:49,425
a lot. And if you don't Yeah. If you don't plug in the right adapter,

906
00:55:49,425 --> 00:55:51,990
it does not come with a 20 watt adapter. But if you don't have the

907
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:55,270
right adapter for it, they can get a little hot when you're pulling this in.

908
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:59,030
But what I liked about them is they're easily tunable. I

909
00:55:59,030 --> 00:56:02,655
don't have to have an app to tune them. If you look nice. Took it

910
00:56:02,655 --> 00:56:06,495
off the screen. But if you look on screen, on the back of the

911
00:56:06,495 --> 00:56:10,330
device are 2 2 knobs, 1 for brightness,

912
00:56:10,330 --> 00:56:13,870
the other one for temperature. Let's say somewhere between

913
00:56:13,930 --> 00:56:16,590
20,008,000, I think, or 3,000 and

914
00:56:17,705 --> 00:56:20,685
6000. Something along those lines. Well, it says it right here. 25,185100.

915
00:56:21,145 --> 00:56:24,665
It says it right on the website. And it gives me the ability to

916
00:56:24,665 --> 00:56:28,430
kinda tune these in to see what kind of lighting I get.

917
00:56:28,430 --> 00:56:31,950
And then, of course, I have to go into the app on the Mac and

918
00:56:31,950 --> 00:56:35,615
tune that as well, and I've been going back and forth on that. Last

919
00:56:35,615 --> 00:56:39,135
week, my color was a little washed out, little, I think, a little bit better

920
00:56:39,135 --> 00:56:42,655
today. But I I basically just put them behind I have

921
00:56:42,655 --> 00:56:46,290
umbrellas up here. I diffuse the light, and I just put them behind those umbrellas.

922
00:56:47,230 --> 00:56:50,850
You could use them without umbrellas. They're supposed to be diffused that way.

923
00:56:51,015 --> 00:56:53,975
But it it it lighting is one of those things you know, I think I

924
00:56:53,975 --> 00:56:57,095
paid $50 by the time we were done for these. Lighting is one of those

925
00:56:57,095 --> 00:57:00,155
kinds of things I think used to be super expensive.

926
00:57:00,970 --> 00:57:04,569
Now not so much. Cast ahead's asking no clicker.

927
00:57:04,569 --> 00:57:07,710
Nope. No clicker on this. Nothing. It is literally

928
00:57:08,375 --> 00:57:12,135
they go behind them and just turn them on. And then the they with

929
00:57:12,135 --> 00:57:15,815
the bat with the battery, part is nice. They're constantly charging. If I did

930
00:57:15,815 --> 00:57:19,050
lose power here, they would stay on for a certain period of time. You can

931
00:57:19,050 --> 00:57:22,890
do power pass through like I'm doing now where I turn them on. I'm

932
00:57:22,890 --> 00:57:26,170
using them. Yes. It's pulling from the battery, but it's also recharging the battery at

933
00:57:26,170 --> 00:57:29,085
the same time. The battery is kinda nice. You could take them with you if

934
00:57:29,085 --> 00:57:32,365
you wanted to if you wanted to take them off your desk. They've got desk

935
00:57:32,365 --> 00:57:36,030
mounts that come with it. Take them off the desk and set them up

936
00:57:36,030 --> 00:57:39,470
somewhere else if you wanted if you needed to do some remote lighting. They are

937
00:57:39,630 --> 00:57:42,350
and I haven't I haven't taken them on the road, but they look very, very

938
00:57:42,350 --> 00:57:46,115
durable. So you could, you know, the light bulbs I broke

939
00:57:46,115 --> 00:57:49,875
a few bulbs back in the day, hauling lighting equipment around. Of

940
00:57:49,875 --> 00:57:53,570
course, with LED, you're not having to do that anymore. So just to encourage

941
00:57:53,570 --> 00:57:57,170
you, if you're working on some lighting or if you need some

942
00:57:57,170 --> 00:58:01,010
lighting, there's some fairly inexpensive options for you out there. I think we're to the

943
00:58:01,010 --> 00:58:04,225
point where in the early days, some of this lighting now I've been testing it

944
00:58:04,225 --> 00:58:07,185
for 3 or 4 weeks, so it's not that long. I don't know how the

945
00:58:07,185 --> 00:58:10,800
the durability of it's gonna be. But now may be a good

946
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,160
time if you have if you're struggling with your lighting or you need some additional

947
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,680
lighting or you wanna do something more. I think, now is a good time to

948
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,795
give it a try, and you can do it for not a lot. And, you're

949
00:58:20,795 --> 00:58:24,395
not the more you pay, the more features you're gonna get. Some of them will

950
00:58:24,395 --> 00:58:27,855
come with a remote control. They're super cheap remote controls, by the way.

951
00:58:28,059 --> 00:58:31,740
Some of them will have an app. You know, your mileage

952
00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:34,619
might vary, so you can, you know, you can take it as you as you

953
00:58:34,619 --> 00:58:38,365
need it. But so far so good, and I've enjoyed the the

954
00:58:38,365 --> 00:58:42,205
tuning aspect of them, and it kinda helps me kinda figure out what do I

955
00:58:42,205 --> 00:58:45,745
want. I have them at 75% brightness, 38100

956
00:58:46,445 --> 00:58:50,130
k for the lighting, and then I've kind of tuned the

957
00:58:50,130 --> 00:58:53,570
app here on the Mac to try and get it again. This is an area

958
00:58:53,570 --> 00:58:56,994
I, Dave, I still need to learn on is to get lighting right. At

959
00:58:56,994 --> 00:59:00,595
this sound is easier than lighting for me for sure.

960
00:59:00,595 --> 00:59:04,194
So check that out again. Throw the link out in the chat room here if

961
00:59:04,194 --> 00:59:08,020
you guys wanna look at it. Yeah. It's, it's tricky. That's

962
00:59:08,020 --> 00:59:11,860
the only remote way I have any kind of skin tone. It's

963
00:59:11,860 --> 00:59:15,505
it's through the lighting and then the

964
00:59:15,805 --> 00:59:19,645
Elgato whatever Cam Link, whatever lets me

965
00:59:19,645 --> 00:59:23,260
change my my tint so I'm not quite blinding

966
00:59:23,260 --> 00:59:26,720
everyone with the light off my forehead. That comes in handy.

967
00:59:27,020 --> 00:59:30,605
And, yeah, lighting is it's one of those things that,

968
00:59:31,065 --> 00:59:33,704
you know, you look at a camera and you think, oh, I've got to spend

969
00:59:33,704 --> 00:59:37,325
1,000 on a camera. And it's like, if you have decent lighting in your phone,

970
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,520
you can basically you'll be right in the, right in the

971
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,200
ballpark. Chris says, if you have room in your if you don't

972
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,835
maybe if you don't have room in your studio, get lights and cameras off your

973
00:59:48,835 --> 00:59:52,515
desk, stands, etcetera, desk clamps. It prevents the lens

974
00:59:52,515 --> 00:59:56,340
wobble. Yeah. I, I still have that. If I if I watch what I'm

975
00:59:56,340 --> 01:00:00,020
doing here and just kind of wobble my desk, you have to be careful

976
01:00:00,020 --> 01:00:03,465
because it looks like a bad version of Star Trek. Pretty

977
01:00:03,465 --> 01:00:06,685
sturdy. Yeah. Mine mine,

978
01:00:07,785 --> 01:00:11,370
rises and lowers. And so my lights are now in the ceiling. I have

979
01:00:11,530 --> 01:00:15,210
one of those poles that goes across, and I mounted them there. And I do

980
01:00:15,210 --> 01:00:18,430
like that. I can actually now open my window without tiptoeing.

981
01:00:18,915 --> 01:00:21,955
And around the stand, you feel like you're in the matrix or one of those

982
01:00:21,955 --> 01:00:25,714
Tom Cruise movies where you're you're going through the lasers

983
01:00:25,714 --> 01:00:29,299
trying to make sure you don't accidentally bump the wrong thing. That's always fun.

984
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:33,299
And so yeah. I remember big deal in all the movies.

985
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,214
Like, you see, in a while, all the movies were dancing around laser

986
01:00:37,214 --> 01:00:40,815
beams. Lasers. Yeah. Makes for a great visual, you know, but,

987
01:00:41,694 --> 01:00:45,500
yeah. And Danny's like, I never quite get high too. Get your lights up high.

988
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:49,340
Yeah. Yeah. Because you wear glasses. Yeah. Because that's I mean, I really

989
01:00:49,340 --> 01:00:53,180
have to look way up to get any kind of reflection in my

990
01:00:53,180 --> 01:00:57,015
my glasses. So yeah, or just do your podcast blind.

991
01:00:57,015 --> 01:01:00,855
Either one is, you know, has its challenges. I would be lost without

992
01:01:00,855 --> 01:01:04,700
glasses on. Sometimes I've been in studios where they're like, hey. Can

993
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:07,660
you tilt your glasses up just a little bit to get art? Because they'll just

994
01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:11,484
run them directly at me, and I'm like, I guys, I gotta see.

995
01:01:11,484 --> 01:01:15,244
Like, I can't no. That that looks dumb on the camera. Put your lights

996
01:01:15,244 --> 01:01:18,990
up higher. You know? For for people in class, just put your lights

997
01:01:18,990 --> 01:01:22,430
up higher. Yeah. Gary says I got a couple of LED panels in the

998
01:01:22,430 --> 01:01:25,630
ceiling. The wife loves it. Yeah. I bet. Yeah. So

999
01:01:26,255 --> 01:01:29,875
hey, I was, I was at Content Entrepreneur

1000
01:01:30,175 --> 01:01:33,855
Expo in Cleveland this week, and it was fun. And I

1001
01:01:33,855 --> 01:01:37,680
noticed 2 things, and I thought I got to start in putting these into my

1002
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,040
interviews. Number 1, I met this guy named Jordan Ash

1003
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,745
Johnson. And what was fun is in my brain, I go,

1004
01:01:44,765 --> 01:01:48,485
remember, his name is a brand. That's his actual name. DoorDash. And I

1005
01:01:48,485 --> 01:01:52,325
almost later called him Versace. I was like, wait. Nope. That's like, then somebody

1006
01:01:52,325 --> 01:01:56,099
said, no. Just remember DoorDash. It's Jordache Johnson. We shouldn't call it

1007
01:01:56,099 --> 01:01:58,440
Levi. You know? Levi's. Yeah. Levi's.

1008
01:02:00,820 --> 01:02:04,365
But the fun part was he's really into AI.

1009
01:02:04,905 --> 01:02:08,345
And I asked him, like, one question, and he

1010
01:02:08,345 --> 01:02:12,070
just lit up. I just just asking about AI. And he

1011
01:02:12,070 --> 01:02:15,910
just went on and on and on and on. And that was interesting. And

1012
01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:19,635
then I asked him, like, what are your kind of pet peeves

1013
01:02:19,635 --> 01:02:23,315
about AI? And that made him go even more. And so that

1014
01:02:23,315 --> 01:02:26,615
might be something if you're interviewing somebody about whatever

1015
01:02:26,970 --> 01:02:30,510
your industry is or whatever. Ask them, like,

1016
01:02:30,890 --> 01:02:33,690
what are your pet peeves? Because I thought about this. I'm like, number 1, you're

1017
01:02:33,690 --> 01:02:37,535
gonna get you're gonna have that passion. Like, I hate it when somebody does,

1018
01:02:37,535 --> 01:02:41,295
you know, such and such, which also then turns into kind of a

1019
01:02:41,295 --> 01:02:44,815
learning because they're gonna explain what you should do instead of the pet

1020
01:02:44,815 --> 01:02:48,529
peeve. And it also then gives them a chance to show

1021
01:02:48,670 --> 01:02:52,509
their knowledge on why that's a bad idea or whatever it

1022
01:02:52,509 --> 01:02:56,095
is. But I just it was funny because with Jordache, as I talked

1023
01:02:56,095 --> 01:02:59,775
to him, about halfway through his answer, I almost

1024
01:02:59,775 --> 01:03:03,535
quit listening to what he said because I was just enjoying the

1025
01:03:03,535 --> 01:03:06,970
fact that, wow, I just hit the magic. Like, all I had to do was

1026
01:03:06,970 --> 01:03:10,490
say AI to this guy, and he's off to the races. And he

1027
01:03:10,490 --> 01:03:14,255
wasn't pimping or, you know, kind of trying to promote his stuff.

1028
01:03:14,255 --> 01:03:17,295
He was just like, oh, this and you can do this and then that. I'm

1029
01:03:17,295 --> 01:03:20,095
doing this one tool. This tool does this. And I was like, wow. Watch him.

1030
01:03:20,095 --> 01:03:23,840
Look at him go. You know? And so that might be something

1031
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,440
I start working into interviews. I'm like, what's your your pet peeve? I did that

1032
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,200
with the episode that Craig was talking about. I asked

1033
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,795
the guy kind of what his pet peeves are, and he was talking about,

1034
01:03:35,095 --> 01:03:38,295
you know, different things that are when it comes to websites, and they're all just

1035
01:03:38,295 --> 01:03:42,080
templates or, you know, you can you can actually now get a WordPress plugin that

1036
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,760
builds your website via AI. You answer some questions and it

1037
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,585
builds your website. And I'm like, it's better than nothing, but, you know, I

1038
01:03:49,585 --> 01:03:53,425
don't know. Jim, do you have any pet peeves or thoughts on this? I'd listen

1039
01:03:53,425 --> 01:03:56,849
for pet peeves in there. That give me another like, you may

1040
01:03:57,170 --> 01:04:00,930
because that question I I would definitely prep them for it if you're gonna

1041
01:04:00,930 --> 01:04:04,705
ask it because you you don't wanna get that off the wall. You

1042
01:04:04,705 --> 01:04:08,305
know? Well, tell me what what do you really what don't you like? What are

1043
01:04:08,305 --> 01:04:12,040
your pet peeves? Then somebody's like, I gotta think about,

1044
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,800
you know, that may not make the best if you're live or whatever. So you

1045
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,480
might wanna let them know you're doing that or just listen for it. You'll

1046
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,105
hear I've interviewed quite a few, you know, I interview tech guys on home

1047
01:04:23,105 --> 01:04:26,885
gadget geeks, and you hear you'll hear those pet peeves

1048
01:04:27,105 --> 01:04:30,809
in the interview. And then you'll be like, oh, they really

1049
01:04:30,809 --> 01:04:34,430
don't like this. Right. Then you can ask. Or

1050
01:04:35,369 --> 01:04:38,605
or they really like this. It doesn't have to necessarily be a negative thing. You

1051
01:04:38,605 --> 01:04:42,045
can sometimes you can hear that excitement in their

1052
01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:45,805
voice about something you didn't ask them about. Write it down

1053
01:04:45,805 --> 01:04:49,099
and come back to it or go right to it. Hey. I heard you say

1054
01:04:49,180 --> 01:04:52,940
and call it out. Hey. I heard you say this. Tell me more

1055
01:04:52,940 --> 01:04:56,665
about that. And they'll just take it off. They'll just they'll

1056
01:04:56,665 --> 01:04:59,505
run. It's like when you do the when you do the,

1057
01:05:01,065 --> 01:05:04,849
the what's my segment? The Oh, yes.

1058
01:05:04,849 --> 01:05:08,609
You get my nerd on. Yeah. Get my nerd on. Yes. Yeah. So I

1059
01:05:08,609 --> 01:05:11,890
I I get geared up for that, you know, and I get excited when when

1060
01:05:11,890 --> 01:05:15,625
those kinds of things come up. So just listen for him. Just you do that.

1061
01:05:15,625 --> 01:05:18,505
You do that pretty well. You know when it's gonna be a Jim needs to

1062
01:05:18,505 --> 01:05:22,329
get his nerd on on this one, and you know. That's it. Yeah.

1063
01:05:22,329 --> 01:05:25,609
Dan says, I like phrasing it. What keeps you up at night about Yeah. Blah

1064
01:05:25,609 --> 01:05:28,970
blah blah. That's a good one. Another way of doing that. Yeah. That's always

1065
01:05:28,970 --> 01:05:32,805
fun. The other thing Craig had a

1066
01:05:32,805 --> 01:05:36,565
question. Do you know how PodPage handles pretty links? Can they be

1067
01:05:36,565 --> 01:05:40,270
mapped to old links created by a by the WordPress plugin? I

1068
01:05:40,270 --> 01:05:43,230
reached out to PodPage, but I didn't get a clear answer. What you want to

1069
01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:46,575
do is go into Pretty Links

1070
01:05:46,795 --> 01:05:50,635
and export them as a CSV and then contact

1071
01:05:50,635 --> 01:05:54,440
their support. This isn't gonna happen overnight, but I know at one point, I

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was gonna move the school of podcasting to PodPage, and I just

1073
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,120
don't think I've I've got 18 years of caca back there, and

1074
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,605
it's it's it's not so much a no. It's right now, it's a not

1075
01:06:05,605 --> 01:06:08,585
now. And I need to see how they are building

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01:06:09,445 --> 01:06:13,280
a front, like, sales funnel. Like, they're not that's not really their jam,

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01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:17,120
and I'll have to see how that works. Because the one thing that

1078
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,920
I just thought about that I've never had on the school of podcasting that I'm

1079
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,595
looking into is where you have a comparison chart.

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01:06:23,655 --> 01:06:27,435
How does the school of podcasting compare to Podcasters Paradise

1081
01:06:28,049 --> 01:06:31,410
and how, you know, whatever Pat Flynn's thing is and blah blah blah. And I

1082
01:06:31,410 --> 01:06:34,690
said, god, it's a great idea. I've never done that. And I'm not sure how,

1083
01:06:34,690 --> 01:06:37,885
because you kinda need a table for that, And I'm not sure I think you

1084
01:06:37,885 --> 01:06:41,644
can do that in pod page. But anyway, that's a really long tangent to

1085
01:06:41,644 --> 01:06:45,184
say I had exported all of my Pretty Links,

1086
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,319
and I reached out and said, hey. Can we import these into

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01:06:49,319 --> 01:06:52,760
that? And they were able to do it. So yeah. So if you're looking to

1088
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,464
move over, that can be something to do. My other alternative would

1089
01:06:56,464 --> 01:07:00,145
be to use some sort of what's the

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01:07:00,145 --> 01:07:03,845
page? There's, the guy looks like he's 14. ClickFunnels.

1091
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,440
You could have some sort of click funnels to have the sales page and then

1092
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,660
have it go to that and then have the school of podcasting be something else.

1093
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,465
If I needed a front page sales funnel, you could always do

1094
01:07:14,685 --> 01:07:18,445
that. And we got 5 minute I we have to end a little early today

1095
01:07:18,445 --> 01:07:22,090
because I've got I'm doing a game show at noon, and it

1096
01:07:22,090 --> 01:07:25,530
didn't dawn on me that I was like, oh, wait. I go till noon. So

1097
01:07:25,610 --> 01:07:28,170
and this is just a classic. I was like, yeah. We could bring out the

1098
01:07:28,170 --> 01:07:31,674
classic. We do talk about this one fairly enough. I produced an

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01:07:31,674 --> 01:07:35,515
interview show, and my host has a good quality mic, but you guessed

1100
01:07:35,515 --> 01:07:39,055
it. You wanna guess who doesn't have a good quality mic, Jim? The the host?

1101
01:07:39,250 --> 01:07:42,370
The guest. The the guest. Yeah. They were like, what do you do with this?

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And so and it's the same stuff, reverb, you know,

1103
01:07:45,810 --> 01:07:49,585
etcetera, etcetera. So either a and what I always do now

1104
01:07:49,805 --> 01:07:53,085
is if somebody says, and I think they're a good fit for the show, can

1105
01:07:53,085 --> 01:07:56,685
you give me a link to an interview you've previously done or

1106
01:07:56,685 --> 01:07:59,650
2? And then I listen to their audio. And as soon as I hear that

1107
01:07:59,650 --> 01:08:03,090
they sound awful, I will say I'll email them, and I'm

1108
01:08:03,090 --> 01:08:06,865
like, have you gotten a different mic since this interview? This sounds

1109
01:08:06,865 --> 01:08:10,625
rather boomy. And if they go, no, then I go, here's

1110
01:08:10,625 --> 01:08:14,065
a link to the Samson q 2u. You know, if you wanna be on my

1111
01:08:14,065 --> 01:08:16,330
show, it's not in the I wanna make sure that people hear your story and

1112
01:08:16,330 --> 01:08:16,990
your message

1113
01:08:24,035 --> 01:08:27,635
and everything else. You are amazing, but I there my

1114
01:08:27,635 --> 01:08:31,395
audience is gonna tune out if you tune up if you just show up sounding

1115
01:08:31,395 --> 01:08:35,240
like that. So that's just you know? And in some cases,

1116
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,080
like, Jim, you've interviewed some some pretty big names, and sometimes you don't have a

1117
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,185
whole lot of choice. It's like, well, you get this person, and they're calling in

1118
01:08:42,185 --> 01:08:45,705
on their phone, and you're like, that is better than nothing. You know? So

1119
01:08:46,024 --> 01:08:49,590
Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes they think they're better than they are.

1120
01:08:49,670 --> 01:08:53,510
That, you know, you're like, oh, no. Everybody tells me this is great. And I'm

1121
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:57,029
like, okay. Tap on your mic for me because that's the very first thing you're

1122
01:08:57,029 --> 01:09:00,415
active. Just tap on your mic. And oftentimes,

1123
01:09:00,875 --> 01:09:04,395
they're not on that you know, so, like, oh, you're not even on. Okay. It's

1124
01:09:04,395 --> 01:09:07,880
because you're not even on the mic. Let's get in your settings. Let's figure this

1125
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,600
out, and then the mic will kick over. And then some they're like, is that

1126
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,819
better? And it's always I always break their hearts when I go,

1127
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:17,904
no. Not really. Shoot. Okay. Let's figure out some things we can

1128
01:09:17,904 --> 01:09:21,665
do to get the mic closer to you. Or Yeah. Yeah. Do you have

1129
01:09:21,665 --> 01:09:25,449
a headset? Like, did you because I'm sure you bought one during the pandemic

1130
01:09:25,449 --> 01:09:28,889
that's in the drawer right right in front of you that you put away thinking

1131
01:09:28,889 --> 01:09:32,725
you never have to wear. I don't know why people are so afraid

1132
01:09:32,864 --> 01:09:36,705
of that of those headsets. Put it on your ear. You

1133
01:09:36,705 --> 01:09:40,319
got a microphone. You sound great. It's 99%

1134
01:09:40,460 --> 01:09:43,760
of the time, it's better than anything any other mic that they have,

1135
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:47,814
but they're putting a headset on. And it's like your your hair is not that

1136
01:09:47,814 --> 01:09:51,654
important. Like, no one's looking at your hair. They will

1137
01:09:51,654 --> 01:09:55,469
disregard you if your sound is terrible. So let's

1138
01:09:55,469 --> 01:09:58,690
get your sound right and not worry so much about your hair.

1139
01:09:59,230 --> 01:10:02,805
Yeah. If your hair has a little bit of a weirdness to it, they won't

1140
01:10:02,805 --> 01:10:05,845
care if the words coming out of their mouth can be heard and don't sound

1141
01:10:05,845 --> 01:10:09,045
like they're in a fishbowl. And if they're using one of these this was really

1142
01:10:09,045 --> 01:10:12,760
common pre pandemic and in the early movie. Right? The microphone on a

1143
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,600
set of earbuds. And, you know, it it always seemed like I'd get mister

1144
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,440
t on the interview who had a 1,000 chains around his

1145
01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:23,975
knee. And then every time they would move, it would you know, you'd get this,

1146
01:10:23,975 --> 01:10:27,815
you know Right. Yeah. The whole I pity the fool. Yeah. Interview,

1147
01:10:27,815 --> 01:10:31,420
you're like, could you could you wear a few less necklaces? Yeah. It

1148
01:10:31,420 --> 01:10:34,619
was you know, or it was there they try to hide it under the lapel

1149
01:10:34,619 --> 01:10:38,139
of their jacket or, you know I'm like, it's

1150
01:10:38,139 --> 01:10:41,955
fine. I it's fine if it's okay. I was just doing a

1151
01:10:41,955 --> 01:10:45,315
recording this week with someone, and they they did everything they could to get the

1152
01:10:45,315 --> 01:10:49,090
microphone out of the shot. And I was like, it's fine with the microphone

1153
01:10:49,090 --> 01:10:52,690
in the shot. I don't know what oh, I don't like it. Oh, okay. Well,

1154
01:10:52,690 --> 01:10:56,475
I mean, I guess that's fair, but it's fine. Just it's it's

1155
01:10:56,475 --> 01:11:00,235
a microphone. People are expecting they would rather hear you

1156
01:11:00,235 --> 01:11:03,614
than hear, you know, or a or

1157
01:11:04,340 --> 01:11:08,100
a microphone a 1000 miles away. You know? Yeah. Or or

1158
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,860
as Gary says yeah. Gary says I had a guy show up on a cell

1159
01:11:11,860 --> 01:11:15,375
phone in elevator. Yeah. That's that's not a bad idea at all.

1160
01:11:15,515 --> 01:11:19,215
And, Randy says his go to now is prerecording a test call.

1161
01:11:19,435 --> 01:11:22,415
And that's not a bad idea because that

1162
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:26,870
also gets you that's your first step of having kind of

1163
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:30,710
a chemistry with this person or not and seeing if they can answer a question

1164
01:11:30,710 --> 01:11:34,435
or not, things like that. So, yeah, it's it's a classic question. We

1165
01:11:34,435 --> 01:11:38,135
see it almost every week. And I was like, well, yeah. Well,

1166
01:11:38,195 --> 01:11:41,255
you know, it's there's the old thing that if you wanted

1167
01:11:41,829 --> 01:11:45,510
to get a message to everybody in your church, you would have to

1168
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:49,109
preach that message 3 weeks in a row because not everybody Yeah.

1169
01:11:49,269 --> 01:11:52,925
Everybody shows up every week. Listen. If they contacted you

1170
01:11:53,305 --> 01:11:57,065
to be on your show, they better have dynamite audio. Like, I there's

1171
01:11:57,065 --> 01:12:00,910
no excuses there. Like, they can't show up. They can't

1172
01:12:00,910 --> 01:12:04,350
contact you and then show up with the with without a good

1173
01:12:04,350 --> 01:12:08,074
microphone. You know? You got Mister t, it cannot, yeah. No.

1174
01:12:08,074 --> 01:12:11,514
No. Yeah. You know? Well, there's a documentary on

1175
01:12:11,514 --> 01:12:15,250
Netflix about We Are the World, and Cyndi Lauper had too

1176
01:12:15,250 --> 01:12:19,010
many jangly things on. And they're like, yeah. Can you take those off? Because she's

1177
01:12:19,010 --> 01:12:22,210
she's bouncing up to the microphone to sing, and it's like, zhing. And then I

1178
01:12:22,210 --> 01:12:25,515
get that's not gonna not gonna work, Cindy. Thanks. You know? And she's like, oh,

1179
01:12:25,515 --> 01:12:29,034
it's it's me. And I'm like, yeah. It's, that and Who

1180
01:12:29,034 --> 01:12:31,215
produced that? Who was the producer of that?

1181
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,120
Mhmm. It was Lionel Ritchie and Michael Jackson wrote it, and

1182
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,855
Quincy Jones, the producer. Yeah. Quincy Quincy he had

1183
01:12:39,855 --> 01:12:43,455
his hands full with that thing. Yeah. Right? You know, they had asked you to

1184
01:12:43,455 --> 01:12:47,295
leave. Like, okay. If you're not and a few left.

1185
01:12:47,295 --> 01:12:50,820
They came Yeah. They came hammered, and Quincy was, like,

1186
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,719
maybe it's time for you to go. Well, and Al Jarreau, they had to have

1187
01:12:54,719 --> 01:12:58,535
him record his part because he was just having way too much fun. And they're

1188
01:12:58,535 --> 01:13:02,215
like, well, while Al can still stand, let's let him record his

1189
01:13:02,215 --> 01:13:05,835
part. And then, Waylon Jennings, I think, was the guy

1190
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,719
that came in with his cowboy hat. And when he realized, okay, this is gonna

1191
01:13:09,719 --> 01:13:13,480
take 3 or 4 hours, he was like, yeah. Peace out. I'm I'm I'm

1192
01:13:13,480 --> 01:13:17,185
out of here. So, yeah. But, speaking of we're out of here, we're almost

1193
01:13:17,185 --> 01:13:20,864
out of here. And so, Jim, what's coming up on the average guy dot

1194
01:13:20,864 --> 01:13:24,410
TV? So on Home Gadget Geeks this week, we had the whole team from,

1195
01:13:24,650 --> 01:13:28,170
Hometech, the Hometech podcast at Hometech. Fm. And we talked about home

1196
01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:31,930
automation, the challenges, and then maybe what's coming in the future. So a

1197
01:13:31,930 --> 01:13:35,305
fun show. These guys were great. It's always great to have

1198
01:13:35,305 --> 01:13:39,145
podcasters on. Right? So they know what they're doing. And, available right

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01:13:39,145 --> 01:13:42,940
now, homegadgetgeeks.com. Nice. On

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01:13:42,940 --> 01:13:46,540
the school of podcasting, I'll be sharing a little more about some of the things

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01:13:46,540 --> 01:13:49,775
I learned at the Content Entrepreneur Expo,

1202
01:13:50,335 --> 01:13:54,094
Especially when it comes to how do I battle ACDC syndrome,

1203
01:13:54,094 --> 01:13:57,534
which is if I do the same thing, half my audience is gonna love it

1204
01:13:57,534 --> 01:14:00,690
because they're getting exactly what they wanted. And the other half of the audience is

1205
01:14:00,690 --> 01:14:04,530
gonna leave because it's the same old stuff. And so I learned some lessons

1206
01:14:04,530 --> 01:14:08,265
on that from the guy, BJ Novak, who was the temp on The

1207
01:14:08,265 --> 01:14:12,105
Office. He was the closing keynote, and he had some some really great points on

1208
01:14:12,105 --> 01:14:15,930
that. So that'll be on the school of podcasting. If you're listening to this

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01:14:15,930 --> 01:14:19,550
later, you can go over to the website ask the podcast coach.com.

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01:14:20,330 --> 01:14:23,530
And, there's a little microphone down there you can leave us a question, and we'll

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01:14:23,530 --> 01:14:26,994
play it on the show here next week. Also, we need to say thank

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01:14:26,994 --> 01:14:30,454
you to our awesome new awesome supporter, Jodie Kringle,

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over at voiceoverandvocals.com. If you need her

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for some voice over, you've heard her. It's amazing. Check her out

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again. Voiceoverandvocals.com. She's got her

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01:14:41,315 --> 01:14:45,155
podcast there as well. And we will be here

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01:14:45,155 --> 01:14:49,000
next week with Ask the Podcast Coach. Thank you to the chat room. You

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guys are always rocking. If you haven't liked, subscribed, and rung,

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01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,980
rang, whatever you do to the bell, that would be beneficial.

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Thanks to Dan over at basedonthetruestorypodcast.com. And of course,

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mark@podcastbranding.co. Go

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start your podcast today. It's fun, and, I'll look at

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Jim with the fireworks. Awesome. We'll see you next week with another episode of

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ask the podcast

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coach.