The Power of Starting With the End in Mind

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Ask the podcast coach for June 1st. June, are you crazy?

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June 1, 2024. Let's get ready

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to podcast. There it is.

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It's that music that means it's Saturday morning.

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It's time for ask the podcast coach, where you get your podcast questions

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answered live. I'm Dave Jackson from the school of podcasting.com, and joining me right over

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there is the one and only Jim

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gymgadgetgeeks.com. Jim, how's it going, buddy? Greetings,

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Dave. Happy Saturday morning to you. Happy 1st June. I don't think that's a holiday

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or anything, but it's always good to be on Ask the Podcast Coach. Yeah. The

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other fun thing was, apparently, my latest credit card expires

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at the end of this month, and I woke up to 8,000,000 emails

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of companies going, you need to update your credit card before it expires. And I

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was like, well, I guess that's a good thing. So because that's always a

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bummer when, you know, all the stuff you pay for, you know, no you no

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longer have access to. Yes. Stops. Yeah. Stops working. So if I had

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a subscription to coffee, I would definitely wanna update my, my

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credit card. Yeah. You definitely would. You can't survive without,

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no. And you can't have subscriptions to coffee these days. That's the crazy thing.

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You can have So let's pour this. Yes. Let's pour this thing.

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No. I paid for every single one. I don't know if I paid for the

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Like,

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Like, I don't have to fiddle around and every time I look at my logo

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I'm not done talking about my buddy, Mark, and, plus, I have more slides today,

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so I was playing with this. Lady? No. That's a dude. Okay. Alright.

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But, anyway yeah. So go over to podcast branding dotco. Because

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remember, they're gonna see you before they hear you. So

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with that, we do have another fun, this is the mugshot if I

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remember right. In fact, let me get you over to Jim. Look at that. Because,

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Big thanks to my good friend, Dan Lefebvre, over there based on a true story.

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Based on a a true storypodcast.com also sponsored this

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nice mug. And if you head over there, Midway

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is the movie they're looking at and the latest on the podcast. The 19, the

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2019 version, a very, if you're into the war

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movies, World War II movies, that was a very interesting

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take on the Battle of Midway. And the cinematography

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and the CGI is amazing in that movie. I just, I watch clips of it

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on YouTube all the time. But check it out. Based on TrueStory podcast.com, they're

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talking about Midway. Dan, as always, thank you for your

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sponsorship. Yeah. I love his, 2 truths and a lie thing that he does

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at the beginning of the show. And I love that he had a guy on

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talking about Napoleon. And they're like, so how accurate was the movie?

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And the guy went d minus, like d, maybe something

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like that. It wasn't, apparently, a little, well, the

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problem is you're trying to you know, anytime you have any

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subject of anything and you have a ton to cover and you decide, okay. We're

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going to cover this in 90 minutes when we really need maybe 2 hours

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and 10 Yeah. It it gets a little little crazy. So you gotta cut stuff.

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Life in 90 minutes is a little it's a little hard,

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especially for a guy like Napoleon, right? You know, as famous as

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he was. There's a, there's a really interesting clip in there

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where he's up on a hill and they're hiding, and the enemy comes in and

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they start shooting and they move him over. The lake is frozen. And

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so they basically chase them out onto the lake and then just bomb the lake

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and everybody falls, everybody falls in. The, the

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cinematography on that one is also incredible. Like that,

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it's just really, really well done. So on that movie too, the

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newest Napoleon, whether you agree with it or it's accurate or

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not, it's actually a really spectacular I think some of the, some

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of the, the cinematography was done really, really well. Nice. Well,

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Jim, I was do I was doing some consulting this week,

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and I thought you being a, you know, person that works with coaches,

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I'm like, this would be a fun way to open it up because if you've

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never read the back the book, 7 Habits of Highly Effective

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People, it's worth the reads by Stephen Covey. And I know they

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just came out with some sort of, like,

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30 year edition or 40 or something. It's been around forever.

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And Been a while. I read that when I was young. Yeah. I read it

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when I was, I think 20. I just remember like, oh, this is

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gold. But number 2 is start with the end in

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mind because I was doing some coaching this week and I'm not throwing people under

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the bus, but it was just one of the things I love about this

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show, about hanging out in Facebook groups is

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Jim, how long have you been doing this? You've been doing this over a decade.

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Right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. 12, mate. 13?

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I think Home Gadget Geeks is 13 years old. Yeah. So I love

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seeing the when I see somebody who's brand

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new, and I'm like, oh, man. It's been a long time since I was this

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person. And so this person jumped in, and

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it was just like, wait a minute. They they hadn't answered a lot of questions.

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So if I'm a coach and I want people to hire me as a

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coach and I wanna do a podcast, number the number 2 habit

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is start with the end in mind. So that's the end. I wanna be hired

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as a coach. So what do I need to do that? I

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just the basics. Right? What would you suggest?

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Well, I, we tell, I get this question all the time in my space. You

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know, what do I do? And I say, well, I, you know, this is like

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any small business that you start. It's like, you know, if you opened a

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hot dog stand, Okay, you gotta, what's, where's

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the location? Is there a need for it? Are you, what are you good

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at? And this is from a strengths based perspective, like, what are you good at

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and what are you not good at? And what you're good at, you should do

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and what you're not good at, you should get some help with. Hire it.

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Find, you know, find somebody, some of those kinds of things. Anyway, so we, we're,

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we're constantly thinking, you know, I always kind of think through, I

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think some folks in that realm think it just happens. And it's like

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any job. You've got to, you gotta kind of work it like a small business,

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you know, passive capital. Well, like, so, like, one thing

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was I I asked him and and I'm like, so because he also

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has had a book. He's like, well, it's not really so much about selling the

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book as hiring me as a coach. And I go, great. And I go, do

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you have a website? And he said, no. And then

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later, it turned out he has a domain that he pointed at a landing

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page. I'm like, okay. Good. You have a domain. That's good to

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go. And but then it was like, do you have any kind of, like,

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scheduling tool? I go, I use TidyCal. I go, I I for a

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while there, I wasn't recommending it, but they fixed all their bugs. It's a one

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time fee of $39. And I go, because you're gonna need

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a way for people to schedule you and to have them

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pay for it. And he was like, oh, and he hadn't really thought about

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that. And I was like, okay. Well, that's something you're gonna need whatever if it's

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acuity scheduling or calendar year. I'm like, you're gonna need a way for people to

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schedule your time and for a way to pay for. And he he had something

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where he could accept payments. It might have been PayPal or something like

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that. And I'm like, but, you know, there's gonna be that. And I go,

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now do you actually have, like, a website? Nope. Just

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a domain that points at a landing page. And I go, well, if you're gonna

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do a podcast, I go, you kinda need a website. And I go, you

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want, in fact, Tim said earlier, he said, hey, I've been

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bingeing my new show, your podcast website. And I

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go, you kinda need one of these because, you know, if you tell

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people how to hire you, you know, it can't be, oh, hold

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on. I'll, you know, let's get on a phone call or whatever. I go,

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you know, your website works 247. So and so I'd

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explain to him that I I think it's a great idea to put the episodes

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on there, you know, things like that. So are is there anything you see people

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kinda getting stuck on or they skip or they go, oh, I've totally

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forgot about that? I think

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finding the need in the in the marketplace and then

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gravitating towards it. I think sometimes I mean, listen, we talk about

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finding our passion and doing, you know, and working and those things we love the

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most. But there's got to be opportunity in some of these things. And

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I find individuals who look for,

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find a need, things people actually need or need help with,

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need work. I mean, think, think of Gordon. Right? I mean, how,

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in the space and in our bubble and I don't know what's like outside our

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bubble, because I'm not there but in our bubble, you know, when people think of

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the legal stuff, they go, Oh, it's Gordon. You know,

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he filled a need. He was, Right? And one of those like, Oh,

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yeah, this legal stuff is hard. I need to be there to help people to

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do that. And I think sometimes we don't,

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we try to solve problems that don't exist. You know? And you're like,

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nobody really needs that, to be honest. Right? You know? I

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watched the, there was a WeWork

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kind of a not so much a documentary, although I'm sure there's

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documentaries on them, but it was kind of a it was a Netflix series kind

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of like how it came about and how this guy was a little

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bit on the the crazy side and doing all sorts of stuff. And

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somewhere in there, somebody said, yeah. But WeWork is a

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solution to a to a problem that nobody's

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really identified yet. You know, everybody, you know, I get

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it that I guess if you wanna hang out with other people while you work,

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but, you know, that's any time I say if you want to monetize

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your show, that's the goal. You got to solve a problem.

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It's now even if it's like premium

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content, well, that premium content should solve a problem.

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Now the problem might be I've had a long day at work and I

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wanna laugh. Right? So it doesn't always have to be how to stuff,

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but it's it's one of those things that he kind of, if

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that's the goal, you have to somehow solve a problem. Coach Dave is

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going crazy in the chat room here. He says, for businesses, it's a 2

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parter. I generally accepted that the product service is only what

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sits above the waterline. You need to do the following, a mission,

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cash flow, resource management, marketing and communications, operation,

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legal compliance, product service, a team, and a

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leadership of 8 elements. So, yeah, it's one of those

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things where especially as you get bigger and bigger. But I just

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like, we never even talked about microphones or, you know,

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what he was gonna do. It was all like we'd he he just

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kinda jumped in. I wanna do a podcast. He's kind of a

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a dating slash, I guess, life coach. That's such

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a wide thing. But and he'd been doing it a while, so he had

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experience and stuff. And and I just explained to him. I go, well and

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we just talked about things like, well, what are you going to how are you

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gonna end your show? Because he was like, well, how do I start my show?

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And I go, well, here's a template. It you don't have to stick to this,

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but it's a great place to start. Welcome to the blah blah show

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where we blank so you can blank and I go,

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you can even add in there. Welcome to the blah blah show where people like

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this trying to do this, we help them do

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this so blank. You know? So if it's if it's, you know, welcome to the

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fat 50 and frisky show where we help men in their fifties

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regain their, you know, youthful appearance and,

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you know, yeah, etcetera, etcetera. Exactly.

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So it was just interesting because he had in one

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hand, kudos to this person for just saying,

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hey, I'm gonna start a podcast. I really don't know what I'm doing, which is

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why I got some coaching. But it was just in a way kind of fun

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that, like, okay. I got into this. I have no idea what I'm doing. And

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I was like, oh, and I'm like, well, hold on. And we did the whole

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why are you doing it? Who's it for when they overlap? That's your what kind

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of thing. But I just thought it was fun that that he had

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just jumped in. I was like, well, again, you have to know how am I

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going to measure the success of this? It's not always downloads.

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And in his case, he wanted people to hire him. And I'm like, okay. Well,

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we gotta have a way for people to hire you and things like that. So

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Mhmm. But that was, it's always fun starting at the very

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beginning and going, oh, I remember I remember this. When you're when you

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go, oh, I I didn't realize that, You know? If like, I've had

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people at Libsyn where they don't realize if they quit paying

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us, we're not gonna host your files. And then your your

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podcast goes dead, and you get removed from all the apps and things

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like that. And like, yeah, it didn't didn't really think that went through. So

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coaching and consulting as 2 different activities, too.

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back to some, you know, there's a little bit of wordsmithing in this. But I

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think sometimes we mistake coaching for

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consulting or vice versa.

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guiding someone to their own, through their own journey

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to kind of answer their own questions, but to work with them

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to pull out and, and, and help them

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with lots of introspection and lots of, lots of questions, right? Not a

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lot, not a lot of answers. In our world, the coach is more about

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questions and listening, and then they are about

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answers. Oftentimes, though, we see

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sometimes on the consulting side is giving answers.

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consulting. That's a consulting answer. I think you should use

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this one and avoid these. Right? And

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again, I don't, I don't think in a lot of cases it matters what we

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call it, or even if we know we're doing 1 or the other.

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2. But in, in a lot of cases, I'm not sure it really,

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and maybe even in, in that world, I don't know if saying, Oh,

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no, no, that's the, you're not a coach you're a consultant. Or the other way.

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I don't know if that matters. But that is, there is some differentiation

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between thinking you know, when you think about a sports coach,

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they're telling their players what to do. Right? There's, there's no, there's

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no question. I don't know, what do you, what play do you think we should

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have run that, you know, or, right, the, it's, it's

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the, on the performance side of things or in the sporting side of things that

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takes but definitely in the business world today, in the business environment,

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we're seeing more coaching being more of a

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guiding exercise and consulting being a more telling exercise.

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in this space and maybe this is what I'm getting to a good

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question to ask someone is, as you start the engagement,

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looking at, for me to help you, help guide you through the

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process? Right. And so that, that may be a good question to

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start with. Because some individuals will say, You know what, I'm just paying you to

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just tell me what to do. I don't, don't ask me questions.

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right? Some, some folks just want to, you know, and I

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think, you know, as, as we think

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about Mark, as he's working through your logo stuff, he's asking you

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questions. He's like, What do you think about that? And what about this? And what

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are you trying to do with this? And what are you trying to do with

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that? So I don't know what that long diatribe was all for, but

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that, those are No, that's that's helpful though. Coaching and consulting.

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and they're like, just tell me what to do. Like, yeah, I'm gonna do interviews.

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They're gonna be online. What's the best mic? What's the best

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service? Blah blah blah. Just tell me what to do. Now here's the

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other another fun question here that the chat room has,

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has brought up, and that is Jeff says,

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so what about community? Do you start a podcast around a

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community and create a podcast? Or wait. Do you do you

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start a podcast around a community, or do you create a podcast

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to then start a community? And Todd the

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Gator is say, hey. That's what I did for his Guardian Downcast.

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He says I was part of a community, and I'm it made it bigger. So

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and I'm sitting here thinking I'm clicking these on the screen, and instead, I'm

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unstarring them, which doesn't do a thing. It's well done. You know what? Some

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you want some consulting around that? Yeah. That's it. Yes. But,

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basically, coach Dave says it's depend it depends on

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top for for seasoning. He says perspective matters. 1 may start with a

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community. He says, I built my youth sports show after I

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had a large and local state wide community. But

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I know ask Ralph. He's often in the chat room as he

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just started a community and he's already got, like, a 100 people in it.

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episode 2 and you're getting, you know,

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27 downloads an episode, when you start

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a community and there's just nothing there but tumbleweeds,

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that could be a little tough. But on the other

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hand, you could smother the people that show up and say, what did you

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think of that? And and, you know, go from there. But but what's a good

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I I know at some point, it's it's a great idea to have a community.

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where I'll be like, I'm thinking of doing this. What do you think? Or what

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are you struggling with? Or things like that. So it's it's kinda tricky, but I

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I think a community I just interviewed Mark Lawley from the Practical

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Prepping Show, and he's got, like, since January, he's, like,

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14,000 people in this community. And so now

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he's got some people that are moderators. He basically has

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the rules, like, don't do this. We don't talk politics, don't

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call names. And if he has like a one strike rule, like you break the

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rule, you're out. That's it. We got 13,999

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people in here. Like just don't, you know, don't be an idiot. And

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so I think a community can help. But it is one of those things

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where much like a Patreon or some sort of crowdfunding,

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you can't just set it up and go, Hey, we have we have a Facebook

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group. We we set up something on heartbeat. You've got to kind of

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prime the pump and get people talking to each other.

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I interviewed a guy. I'll put a link in the show notes on the

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School of Podcasting. Like, a great strategy for communities

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is if somebody asks you a question, say, oh, it's a great question. Could

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you do me a favor? Can you put that in the community? And

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then let them ask it, And then you answer it there for everyone to

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see. And then people can chime in and kind of go

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in on that. And then what happens is he's and I've seen this

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happen where if you start to do

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that, you'll say, hey, can you put this question in the

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in the community? Well, the 3rd time they asked that, they just put the

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question in the community. And then before you even know it's there,

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the community started to answer the question before you even know

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about it. Then at that point, that's really what you wanna do. Jeff says, hey,

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how do I get on that newsletter? If you go to there's 2 ways.

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the newsletter or if you go to school of podcasting.com/newsletter,

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the, yeah, podcasting observations.com

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is is I believe that's still working. Let Let me know if it's not. It

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might be one of those weird things where I am horrible

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at domains where I I need to I

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know it's a thing where you redirect the thing of the thing of the IP

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DNS thing. But most of my domains, you have to put www

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in, which I know makes me sound like I'm 4000 years

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old. You know? But I I know some domains you don't have to.

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It'll just go there. Most of mine you do. So I need to

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take a domain class on what little extra step I

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I think that might be one where you have to go to. You can try

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podcasting observations.com. That's my Substack newsletter, which

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I'll be putting out later today. And then, if

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if that doesn't work, go to www podcasting observations.

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Or you can go to school of podcasting.com/newsletter where you

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can have your choice. You have my daily podcast tips, which I'll give you

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right now about 90 days of daily stuff. And then,

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there's one at the bottom that'll get you to podcasting observations. So

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Todd DeGator, he says community is awesome. I can get ideas for shows,

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make great relationships, collaborate with other podcasts in the niche. And

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just I just had a live show last night talking with my

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Discord. Yeah. It's I know Mark with his

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practical prepping, and I'm sure Ralph is doing this with his

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ask ralphpodcast.com. You you can also then

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get feedback on an episode. And so

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what Mark was saying is he has people because it's a

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Facebook group that are typing and prepping or whatever, and they're

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finding his group. And then somebody will say that was a, a

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really good episode. And then the people that have no idea what they're talking about

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are like, what are you talking about? Where's the podcast? So it is leading

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more people to his, thing. There we go. I knew Randy would know.

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Randy's a, he's a big IT guy. Dave needs c

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name records to redirect www to the at symbol

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on the domain. And it was something simple. Your domain, that'll be in your domain

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registrar Yeah. Site. Yeah. So and then, coach Dave

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says, yeah. What what Dave said? I knew it was something stupid. It was just

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like something I haven't done yet. So that's always fun.

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Generally set up for you. That's kinda I think, like, I use hover, and I

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think they do that automatically. So You would think.

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I just I know anytime I do stuff with domains, like I was

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playing with speaking of newsletters, mailer lite because I

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had a member of the school of podcasting because I recommend

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either MailerLite or ConvertKit and MailerLite.

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Here's the good news. They're really really really focused on making

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sure your email gets delivered and so you have to do the hokey

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pokey with the c name in your domain thing

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and they even had a video like here's how to do it in GoDaddy and

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GoDaddy went to the Descript school of

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interfaces, meaning that every time I log into GoDaddy, it's a little

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different. And so as you might imagine, their

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GoDaddy video instructional thing on here's how you can set up GoDaddy

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to put the stuff we need in at Miller Lite to verify that you're you

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and that whole 9 yards. And that was out of date. And that's when he

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went, and so I said here, ConvertKit has a free version

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as well. You can try this. And ConvertKit has a bit

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of a learning curve. They do some some really cool stuff,

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but that was that was one where I was like, you know, there are times

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when I really hate domains because that was another one where

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the school of podcasting I'm using, I believe it's just

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hey.com to handle my email. And

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And I think in the process of setting that up, I now don't have all

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the controls in GoDaddy again. Domains that's that's my Achilles heel.

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That's something when we get, you know, deeper than 3

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inches in in domains, I'm like, okay. Hold on. I gotta go to,

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tech support or something like that. Speaking of routes I threw in

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the direct link, right, to your Substack? Jackson. Substack.com?

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Is that that they can register there too. Right? That's just a redirect for that?

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So I threw that in chat if you wanna get signed up for Dave's newsletter.

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Yeah. And all the newsletter is, it's

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it's like the last one. I think I went crazy. I had 3

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paragraphs about, hey. I always talk about laugh, cry, think, grown,

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educator, entertain, and I was talking about how I was watching young

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Sheldon. Well, young Sheldon is based in the the eighties

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slash maybe yeah. Pretty much eighties. Eighties. And he's

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watching these really old video games. And the fact that people are talking on a

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phone or on a wall and all this other, you know, they're listening to

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Walkman's. And I go, this this show makes me really

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feel things. And I said, so maybe that's another thing we should look at.

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Laugh, cry, think, grown, educate, entertain, but also how are we making

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people feel? And so that took me 3

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paragraphs to to do that. And then it's just, here's all the episodes I

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did since last time. Here's what caught my eye and here's what's

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coming in the future. And I've had people when I put it out, I was

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like, this is not a newsletter. This is a paragraph and a half. And I've

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had people say, I really like your newsletter because I can read it in about

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3 minutes. I'm like, okay. And then when I checked my stats last

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month on, some of my stuff, 30%

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of my traffic is coming from my newsletter. Like, some of my my

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more obscure stuff, like podcast consultant.com and things

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like that. I was driving people to that, and then Jim was gone.

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Okay. So let me see if, yeah, he's just gone. I went to put

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him back and he's not here. Well, that's always fun. But yeah,

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so I was just using that, and that's what I've been

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doing with the newsletter. That's it doesn't have to be war and peace.

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But what I love about it is it a lot. It's

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another place where you can ask people without putting out a podcast

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that, hey, what do you think of this idea? And so

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I got some, I got some great ideas from from Ralph

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from ask ralphpodcast.com about the new podcast hot

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seat, but I threw some of those idea by my newsletter. And so it's

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just a fun way, and he's back. Okay. So let's, we'll

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hop in. I just didn't agree with what you were saying. Peace

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out. I'm out of here, man. Forget you. Yeah. So that's

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00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,125
what I use the newsletter for. So any kind of community, anything you can

437
00:26:57,125 --> 00:27:00,505
do to, you know,

438
00:27:00,965 --> 00:27:04,799
have a better interaction with your audience is always a good thing. Yeah,

439
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:08,559
we I have a 1,000 of those, that community they're not

440
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:12,080
all in my community, but at work, a 1,000 are showing up this weekend to

441
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,674
be a part of this conference that I'm doing for work. And it's a

442
00:27:15,835 --> 00:27:19,375
listen, community, community can be challenging too.

443
00:27:19,755 --> 00:27:23,529
If you build it, they will complain. So, you

444
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:27,289
know, you're, you're gonna get a lot of that.

445
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:30,630
I, it's such a good and a bad thing all at the same time. I

446
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:34,345
mean, there's moments I really struggle with that you're thinking, Oh, they can answer

447
00:27:34,345 --> 00:27:38,125
each other's questions. Yes, but sometimes wrong. Like, you

448
00:27:38,425 --> 00:27:42,210
know, they, they'll fight with each other. Right? And I don't, I don't get too

449
00:27:42,210 --> 00:27:46,049
much of that. But I've seen that kind of happen before, where they start, you

450
00:27:46,049 --> 00:27:49,475
know, they start going back and forth. And that can be damaging to the community.

451
00:27:49,475 --> 00:27:53,235
They can divide the community. They can turn on you. You know, you, you

452
00:27:53,235 --> 00:27:56,630
get those personalities that get in there. And then you're like, Hey, wait a minute.

453
00:27:56,630 --> 00:28:00,250
This is, I made this thing. And a personality

454
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:04,235
who wants to be bigger than you comes in and disrupts it, tries

455
00:28:04,235 --> 00:28:07,595
to take it over, tries to be, tries to, you know, do

456
00:28:07,595 --> 00:28:11,100
something to affect your

457
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:14,860
relationship with the community, whatever. And the bigger it gets, the harder

458
00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:18,059
it is. I think sometimes we think, Oh, if I could just grow it, this

459
00:28:18,059 --> 00:28:21,765
would be so great. Well, the more

460
00:28:21,765 --> 00:28:25,205
people you have, the more accountability is out there. And people will

461
00:28:25,205 --> 00:28:28,880
absolutely call you out. This is the thing. And you know this,

462
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,420
Dave, you've, you've gotten feedback on things, you know, that you've

463
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,595
said or you've posted to your site. Somebody's like, How dare you? Or

464
00:28:36,595 --> 00:28:39,955
Why can't you spell this correctly? Right? And you'd

465
00:28:39,955 --> 00:28:43,315
think, Hey, you know, some of your, some of your, your

466
00:28:43,315 --> 00:28:46,940
best listeners, some of the best folks that are closest

467
00:28:46,940 --> 00:28:50,620
to you are the ones who just flat out call you out

468
00:28:50,620 --> 00:28:54,445
publicly in these groups. And you're like, Dude, just

469
00:28:54,445 --> 00:28:58,044
send me an email. Like, we could handle this behind the

470
00:28:58,044 --> 00:29:01,585
scenes. And you don't have to be such a jerk about it. Right?

471
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,640
I don't, and I don't think they think they're being a jerk. I think honestly,

472
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,240
and I think I've said this before here, but I'll say it again. I think

473
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,395
we are still trying to figure out socially

474
00:29:13,015 --> 00:29:16,535
how to handle social as humans. I think it's an, it's a

475
00:29:16,535 --> 00:29:19,975
fairly new technology, and many of us are not good at

476
00:29:19,975 --> 00:29:23,470
it. And I still think we've got, as a

477
00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:26,929
culture, as a, as, as humans,

478
00:29:27,549 --> 00:29:31,245
we've got some work to do to come up with some global

479
00:29:31,465 --> 00:29:34,525
standards, some global assumptions, some

480
00:29:34,905 --> 00:29:38,730
global politeness, you know, things that you do and you don't do.

481
00:29:39,210 --> 00:29:42,890
And I think there's some folks listen, there's obviously, there's absolutely folks who

482
00:29:42,890 --> 00:29:46,010
know what they're doing, and they know why they're doing it, and they do it

483
00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:49,755
on purpose, and they do it to dig. Right? But I think there's others

484
00:29:49,755 --> 00:29:53,595
who are type, who are putting things in there who are being offensive, but

485
00:29:53,595 --> 00:29:57,440
they don't know they're being offensive. Or they're being demeaning, and they don't

486
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,120
know they're being they think they're just answering a question, or they think they're just

487
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,965
doing something. And then, of course, text creates, you know, that

488
00:30:04,965 --> 00:30:08,725
it's negative by default to be we all read. I don't know

489
00:30:08,725 --> 00:30:12,485
why with the text, but when we read text, we think people are yelling

490
00:30:12,485 --> 00:30:16,059
at us, or it's always negative, right? So you immediately come back

491
00:30:16,059 --> 00:30:19,840
defensive, and that leads this toilet bowl of conversation

492
00:30:20,059 --> 00:30:23,905
that goes down. So I think we've got to, I still think,

493
00:30:23,965 --> 00:30:27,645
you know, it's not going away. Some, in the, in the public, in the, in

494
00:30:27,645 --> 00:30:31,025
the, in, with public discord, some people are like, Oh, wait,

495
00:30:31,290 --> 00:30:35,050
social has changed culture. Yes, it has. It absolutely has. It's

496
00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:38,890
not going away. We've got to figure out, as a, as the

497
00:30:38,890 --> 00:30:42,685
human race, we need to figure out how to deal with each other in

498
00:30:42,685 --> 00:30:46,285
that space and be better. I know one thing: We can control ourselves.

499
00:30:46,285 --> 00:30:49,930
And so be a good example out there. Right? Be a

500
00:30:49,930 --> 00:30:53,610
good example. We have a great listen, physician, heal thyself. I

501
00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:57,050
have, I have snapped back at people super

502
00:30:57,050 --> 00:30:59,875
fast. You You know, I got a, I got a message from them and I

503
00:30:59,875 --> 00:31:03,235
just, they didn't intend to, it wasn't intended to be a bad

504
00:31:03,235 --> 00:31:06,940
thing. I took it, and in a fight or flight moment,

505
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,840
I snap back at him. Right? I'm speaking

506
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,360
from experience. I may be the worst at this. I, I need to take a

507
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,095
deep breath. But those are things I think we need to learn. You know,

508
00:31:18,095 --> 00:31:21,375
we're gonna need to learn to do that better. It's not going away. So we're

509
00:31:21,375 --> 00:31:24,760
gonna have to learn how to do this area of public discord

510
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:28,660
discourse. We're gonna have to figure out a discourse. We're gonna figure out a

511
00:31:28,660 --> 00:31:32,445
better way to do it. Yeah. Jody Kringle says bulletin boards actually

512
00:31:32,445 --> 00:31:35,745
changed the culture, which is true. If we go back in the day, man,

513
00:31:36,365 --> 00:31:39,590
I forget the thing I was using for bulletin boards back in the day, but,

514
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:43,270
Jeff says the live show on Friday mornings. Well, the only thing I hate about

515
00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:47,110
Jeff's show on Friday is I do lunch with Dave at 12:30, so

516
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:50,835
I don't get to watch the the whole thing. But he says, it's it's

517
00:31:50,835 --> 00:31:54,675
been a great, you know, community for him. It's a great group of people,

518
00:31:54,675 --> 00:31:58,170
and I've, I try to watch that. Here's the thing. If you have a

519
00:31:58,170 --> 00:32:01,530
problem child in your group, if you don't wanna kick them out, sometimes making the

520
00:32:01,530 --> 00:32:05,325
person who's the disruptor and admin can be helpful. Jody

521
00:32:05,325 --> 00:32:09,165
says, I had a huge community of songwriters on a message board, and

522
00:32:09,165 --> 00:32:12,845
they mostly regulated themselves. That's good because that's a pain in the

523
00:32:12,845 --> 00:32:16,570
butt when they're they're arguing. Well, if, if we think the internet

524
00:32:16,570 --> 00:32:19,770
was the first, very first time this happened, let's just be really, really clear. The

525
00:32:19,770 --> 00:32:22,830
newspapers of the, during the Revolutionary period,

526
00:32:23,745 --> 00:32:27,585
Ben Franklin trolled people in the newspaper, right,

527
00:32:27,585 --> 00:32:31,265
with his editorials. And so the, the

528
00:32:31,265 --> 00:32:33,850
passive aggressive, the, the

529
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:37,990
snarky, the trolling, that's not unique to the

530
00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:41,830
internet. Like that, that was happening 2 300 years

531
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:45,645
ago in newspapers, if you go back and read some of those, some

532
00:32:45,645 --> 00:32:49,185
of those papers. So don't, listen, don't think that's a new invention.

533
00:32:49,649 --> 00:32:53,490
We, this, it just got easier to do it before. And

534
00:32:53,490 --> 00:32:57,110
I don't know, even in the '80s, '70s '80s, the letters to the editor

535
00:32:57,325 --> 00:33:00,845
in the paper go back and read some I mean,

536
00:33:00,845 --> 00:33:04,605
some super hardcore trolling going on there. So don't, listen,

537
00:33:04,605 --> 00:33:08,270
listen, friends, Xers and boomers, you didn't

538
00:33:08,270 --> 00:33:12,110
invent trolling. Okay? You didn't invent it. It's gone on

539
00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:15,935
long before this. Don't, don't be proud of yourself for that. It's been going

540
00:33:15,935 --> 00:33:18,175
on for a long time. We still have to figure out how to handle it.

541
00:33:18,175 --> 00:33:21,935
When I spoke at the, Irma Baumbach writing conference, and you

542
00:33:21,935 --> 00:33:25,380
don't realize how she stood up for women's rights back in the

543
00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:28,740
seventies. And you had all these letters to the

544
00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:32,515
editor just like, why are you letting this woman do

545
00:33:32,515 --> 00:33:36,115
this stuff? I was like, holy cow. Coach Dave. Yeah.

546
00:33:36,115 --> 00:33:39,800
Coach Dave says I had an audio account with SoundWise private feed

547
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,560
essentially. He says I put my content there for my staff, for example, but

548
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,000
I would never put it out in public. It's just his personal thought. So that's

549
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,745
a way you can do a community. Todd, the gator

550
00:33:50,745 --> 00:33:54,185
said, I have a separate chat channel for just feedback from the

551
00:33:54,185 --> 00:33:57,760
podcast. It can really fill the tank. Yep. And get the

552
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,980
immediate responses from listeners. Yeah. Getting those responses

553
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,135
that that's really it does put gas in the tank. Sometimes.

554
00:34:05,135 --> 00:34:08,735
Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes it's Depending on what it is. Yeah. Sometimes it'll empty the

555
00:34:08,735 --> 00:34:12,480
tank. He says you have many personalities and sensibilities, and

556
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,239
it can be a very fragile thing. And he says he says, I'm sorry. I

557
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,920
just get hyped up when you guys start talking community. So Yeah. Yeah.

558
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,645
Yeah. For sure. It's when you got a good when you get a good one,

559
00:34:23,945 --> 00:34:27,625
it's amazing. It's that's that's the cool that's I really for

560
00:34:27,625 --> 00:34:31,270
me, I like yesterday was lunch with Dave, and I look forward to

561
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:34,810
that. And we talked a little bit about

562
00:34:34,949 --> 00:34:38,730
outsourcing your stuff, but a big chunk of that was just, you know,

563
00:34:39,055 --> 00:34:42,815
6, 7 people just hanging out, talking about what's up with you, what's up

564
00:34:42,815 --> 00:34:46,495
with you. And it's nice to be around other people that are doing the

565
00:34:46,495 --> 00:34:49,710
same thing you do so you don't feel like a weirdo. You know, that whole

566
00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:53,070
9 yards. Anthony has a question, and Anthony was

567
00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:56,594
on the podcast review show forever

568
00:34:56,594 --> 00:35:00,295
ago. He does a show about Route 66. He says, here's my question.

569
00:35:00,674 --> 00:35:04,355
I'm interested in publishing a book featuring some of the stops along

570
00:35:04,355 --> 00:35:08,010
Route 66 that have been featured as episodes such as

571
00:35:08,010 --> 00:35:11,609
Diners, Businesses, and and and I've either missed the

572
00:35:11,609 --> 00:35:14,030
last half of his and historic motels.

573
00:35:15,255 --> 00:35:19,015
Okay. Do it. It's it's not that hard. You can, obviously, you can

574
00:35:19,015 --> 00:35:22,730
have it transcribed, but you're still gonna need an editor to,

575
00:35:23,050 --> 00:35:26,510
edit those out. And it's another stream of of

576
00:35:26,650 --> 00:35:30,404
income. It may not books are are okay, But the nice

577
00:35:30,404 --> 00:35:32,984
thing is it it's one of those things if somebody,

578
00:35:33,765 --> 00:35:37,204
a, wants to take the book with them as they go down Route

579
00:35:37,204 --> 00:35:40,850
66 as when my brother they did a Route 66 tour and

580
00:35:40,850 --> 00:35:43,730
I pointed them in Anthony. I'm like, oh, here's the podcast you guys want to

581
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:47,330
listen to. And so it's cool, but it's

582
00:35:47,330 --> 00:35:50,985
easier to flip through a book to find what you're looking for maybe

583
00:35:50,985 --> 00:35:54,825
than going through 17 episodes. And you're like, where's the thing where he talks about

584
00:35:54,825 --> 00:35:58,045
the thing? You might be able to find that in the book. But, yeah, it's

585
00:35:58,799 --> 00:36:02,160
when when you self publish, it's it's really not as hard as you

586
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,760
think. Check out authormedia.com, my buddy, Thomas

587
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,555
Umstatt Junior. And I just love saying Umstatt because how

588
00:36:09,555 --> 00:36:13,155
much more German can you get? Real I mean, that guy, he

589
00:36:13,155 --> 00:36:16,830
knows podcasting, and he knows books and such. He was

590
00:36:16,830 --> 00:36:20,590
actually a agent, a book agent for a while. I did not know that.

591
00:36:20,590 --> 00:36:24,225
This is a guy that if you sit around, he's just a walking encyclopedia when

592
00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:27,985
it comes to, author stuff. But it's, you know, and then there are

593
00:36:27,985 --> 00:36:31,510
places like Lulu and all sorts of places if you

594
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:35,109
want, you know, the more people you It's a lot of work. It's a lot

595
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:38,869
of work. Yeah. It's the the thing that got me when I when I wrote

596
00:36:38,869 --> 00:36:42,675
my book, you know, profit profit from your podcast. Wait a

597
00:36:42,675 --> 00:36:46,455
minute. You wrote a book? Yeah. When did that happen? My favorite We almost

598
00:36:46,515 --> 00:36:50,230
never talk about that. My favorite thing was I got done writing it,

599
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:53,990
and they're like, yeah. We need, like, another 1,000 or so words.

600
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:56,915
And I'm like, yeah. But I'm like, I don't have anything else to say. And

601
00:36:56,915 --> 00:36:59,635
so if you read the book and there's a big part where I go into

602
00:36:59,635 --> 00:37:03,234
different membership sites saying this is probably gonna be outdated when you read it

603
00:37:03,234 --> 00:37:06,550
later but here's some things to know And I was kinda like, I don't really

604
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:09,110
wanna put this in the book because it's gonna be outdated by the time it

605
00:37:09,110 --> 00:37:12,550
comes out. And, I was I was right on that, you know, but they needed

606
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:16,075
a couple, you know, need more words. I'm like, and it's something to

607
00:37:16,375 --> 00:37:20,135
do with literally, like, how big and how tall the book was. And so

608
00:37:20,135 --> 00:37:23,974
if I had if I had self published that, that would not be in the

609
00:37:23,974 --> 00:37:27,670
book. But I was like, oh, okay. So that's always

610
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:31,450
fun. But, yeah, it's it's the thing just like a podcast,

611
00:37:31,509 --> 00:37:35,295
right? So you have to figure out like who and what it's

612
00:37:35,295 --> 00:37:39,135
for. But then a book, this is gonna make it sound

613
00:37:39,135 --> 00:37:42,690
easy and it's it's not. It's, it it just takes

614
00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:46,450
discipline. But okay. First of all, but in your case, Route

615
00:37:46,450 --> 00:37:50,230
66. Okay. So you say I've got these 5 episodes. Great.

616
00:37:50,315 --> 00:37:53,995
Here are the names of the episodes. Those are now chapters. And

617
00:37:53,995 --> 00:37:57,435
now in this chapter, we're gonna talk about that. So for me, it

618
00:37:57,435 --> 00:38:01,090
was, you know, okay, let's talk about monetization. Okay. Here are the

619
00:38:01,090 --> 00:38:04,710
7 ways to monetize. Each of those gets a chapter.

620
00:38:05,174 --> 00:38:08,615
Or our subchapter or things like that. You just break it into little bitty pieces,

621
00:38:08,615 --> 00:38:12,454
and then you're like, okay. I've got my layout. This is these are my

622
00:38:12,454 --> 00:38:15,780
chapters. This is the title. Okay. Here's chapter 1.

623
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,079
Then you start typing. And then about, you know, months

624
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,835
later, you're done. And then you want to have an editor and then

625
00:38:23,835 --> 00:38:27,515
you get a second editor because the first editor is gonna miss stuff. And

626
00:38:27,515 --> 00:38:31,250
then the thing that really that I kind of go really was when I

627
00:38:31,250 --> 00:38:34,390
got my book and, you know, it's the first time I'd worked with a publisher.

628
00:38:35,090 --> 00:38:38,930
I was like, I can't wait to see what the the front cover is gonna

629
00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:42,575
be. And so when they sent me a red book with yellow text, I'm

630
00:38:42,575 --> 00:38:45,955
like, I'm pretty sure I could have done that in Canva.

631
00:38:46,335 --> 00:38:49,619
You know? I was like, really? No cool money. Something,

632
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,619
you know? You know, Larry says I had the same issue with my book.

633
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,555
Praise to Chat GPT for inspiring me with the additional content needed to

634
00:38:57,555 --> 00:39:00,995
publish it. Yeah. I need to buy Larry's book because he he said a big

635
00:39:00,995 --> 00:39:04,630
chunk of it was based on stuff he fed

636
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:08,150
Chat GPT, and then it wrote it. And then he added personal stories and things

637
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:11,865
like that. So that might be something to do. I did see I logged

638
00:39:11,865 --> 00:39:15,705
in to Chat GPT last night and because I and I asked it. I go,

639
00:39:15,705 --> 00:39:19,450
hey, give me the the 7 Habits of Highly

640
00:39:19,450 --> 00:39:22,569
Effective People, but do not expand on them. Just give me a list. And it

641
00:39:22,569 --> 00:39:25,290
was like, and I saw I was like, oh, start with the end in mind

642
00:39:25,290 --> 00:39:28,964
was number 2, according to chat gpt. But I noticed and this may not

643
00:39:28,964 --> 00:39:32,425
be new, but it looked new to me. You can now upload

644
00:39:33,285 --> 00:39:36,760
files to it. And so It's limited if you don't have a

645
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,360
subscription, just to be clear. I just need it. You get so much. Yeah. They

646
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,780
you're on you're now this is at chatgbt.comoropenai.

647
00:39:44,744 --> 00:39:48,125
You, if you don't have the plan, they have, still have a free plan, 3.5,

648
00:39:48,984 --> 00:39:52,665
is what they're doing. And that goes forever. But they, they're, they're teasing you

649
00:39:52,665 --> 00:39:56,470
with Foro. And then, then it's like, Oh, you've used up

650
00:39:56,470 --> 00:40:00,150
all your tokens. That's what they call them. You've used up all your tokens, and

651
00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:03,684
it takes you back to 35. Now the 4.0 version of it is

652
00:40:03,684 --> 00:40:07,145
good. I mean, there's a lot of things you can do, including loading files.

653
00:40:07,444 --> 00:40:11,190
Right? You can't do that on 3.5. So, so it's worth, it's worth a

654
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:14,790
look. Just, just know it's limited for now. Because the thing I want to do

655
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:18,485
I've heard people talk about this is if I I can

656
00:40:18,485 --> 00:40:21,845
export my stats, which have the title of my episode and the number of

657
00:40:21,845 --> 00:40:25,690
downloads, and I wanna upload that file and go based on

658
00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:29,290
this where and, again, just talk to these things. Like, based on

659
00:40:29,290 --> 00:40:32,910
this table where the first column is the name of the episode

660
00:40:33,335 --> 00:40:37,175
and the second column is the number of downloads, and I might even get, you

661
00:40:37,175 --> 00:40:40,935
know, where the higher the number, it's better. Come up with

662
00:40:40,935 --> 00:40:44,730
10 additional topics that based on this table

663
00:40:44,730 --> 00:40:48,410
should be popular or whatever. And I've heard people do

664
00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:51,930
that and I was like, I want to take that one for a test drive

665
00:40:51,930 --> 00:40:55,434
because I the the one I still love that I just was like, will it

666
00:40:55,434 --> 00:40:58,875
do this, which was, like, on this show. I'll be like, hey. Give me a

667
00:40:58,875 --> 00:41:02,450
list of all the companies and their u r or

668
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:06,050
URLs mentioned in this show. And that's when I was like, oh, okay. That

669
00:41:06,050 --> 00:41:09,494
that shaved some time off of editing because I'm

670
00:41:09,494 --> 00:41:13,095
always I'm a big fan of if we mention anything. Like, in this

671
00:41:13,095 --> 00:41:16,375
show, if you go to the show notes when I'm done, we'll have a link

672
00:41:16,375 --> 00:41:19,980
to my newsletter. Why? Because we talked about it. We'll have a link to

673
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,960
the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. Why? Because that's on Amazon,

674
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,795
and that's an affiliate link. So I can do that as well. So it's,

675
00:41:28,335 --> 00:41:31,795
you know, always fun. Let's see here. The chat room is saying,

676
00:41:32,015 --> 00:41:35,855
you gotta have yeah. There you go. Larry says the reason it had

677
00:41:35,855 --> 00:41:39,589
to be more more words. You have to have a spine that will hold

678
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:43,269
the title. He said I had the same issue with my book. Praise to chat

679
00:41:43,269 --> 00:41:46,915
t p t for inspiring me with additional content needed to to do that. I

680
00:41:46,915 --> 00:41:50,755
get it. Oh, there you go. And, I'm gonna Larry might give me

681
00:41:50,755 --> 00:41:54,200
a book. Thank you for that. So and then t r

682
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,940
says chat g p t 4 o.

683
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:01,880
So Yeah. Yeah. 444 point o. They just open up all the

684
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,654
functionality on the accounts as well. So you

685
00:42:05,654 --> 00:42:08,954
got custom GPTs, DALL E, data analytics.

686
00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:13,730
So they're basically opening up the floodgates, trying to Sort of.

687
00:42:14,110 --> 00:42:17,550
Sort of. Like, it's a lot more than it

688
00:42:17,550 --> 00:42:21,175
was. It's not everything. You still need to pay if you want everything all the

689
00:42:21,175 --> 00:42:24,635
time. It's $20. Like, it's not terrible. Right.

690
00:42:24,855 --> 00:42:28,619
It's, it's, it's funny where things that people will pay

691
00:42:28,619 --> 00:42:32,079
for, but they won't pay for this. You know, Jeff said I had to analyze

692
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:35,980
my Facebook stats. It was really impressive. And so there

693
00:42:35,980 --> 00:42:39,655
you go. Lane Robinson. Most of my episode research starts with

694
00:42:39,875 --> 00:42:43,474
write a 30 minute podcast episode script in the voice of Seth

695
00:42:43,474 --> 00:42:47,140
Godin on whatever. Don't use it

696
00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:49,799
verbatim. And here's something

697
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:54,105
that I was working with Ralph because Ralph's got a

698
00:42:54,105 --> 00:42:57,545
cool show if you're into finance. What and his his thing

699
00:42:57,545 --> 00:43:01,200
that's interesting is he he comes up with stuff

700
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,880
that is good for personal finance, but also applies to business

701
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,660
owners. So but he used the thing in Descript

702
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:12,405
where if you've seen this yet, the AI can control your

703
00:43:12,405 --> 00:43:15,945
eyes. So even if you I'm looking over here at my screen.

704
00:43:16,619 --> 00:43:20,380
But the thing I noticed I was watching there's a channel I believe it's

705
00:43:20,380 --> 00:43:23,599
Think Media and this guy kind of drives me nuts

706
00:43:24,015 --> 00:43:27,375
because he has a Stream Deck in front of him and all of a sudden

707
00:43:27,375 --> 00:43:31,220
he'll go to the side camera. And so now he's talking like this. But,

708
00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:34,420
you know, you see the different side of his bookcase. And then all of a

709
00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:38,100
sudden he'll do this and then he's talking straight at you. And then

710
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:41,565
after about 5 or 7 sentences, now he's talking to you from this

711
00:43:41,565 --> 00:43:45,185
side and it's different camera angles. I don't I just have the one camera.

712
00:43:45,485 --> 00:43:49,180
But I noticed that when you talk to people a lot of

713
00:43:49,180 --> 00:43:52,859
times you might kind of just go, well, you know, you're gonna

714
00:43:52,859 --> 00:43:56,540
kind of like you don't always and I was telling Ralph, I

715
00:43:56,540 --> 00:44:00,045
said, I'm not sure if this is weird, if it's just me or

716
00:44:00,045 --> 00:44:03,645
what. But the fact that he never looked away. Now, he wasn't like

717
00:44:03,645 --> 00:44:07,109
staring at me, you know, in a weird way, but I was like, it was

718
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:10,230
one of those things I'm like, what is going on? And the fact that he

719
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:13,690
never looked away. Is that just a Dave thing?

720
00:44:13,875 --> 00:44:17,555
Or is that normal? Because I was like, I need another opinion on this. Yeah.

721
00:44:17,555 --> 00:44:21,290
It's a little creepy, like somebody who doesn't blink. My I just keep

722
00:44:21,290 --> 00:44:25,050
my eyes nice and squinty so you can't even see where they're looking at. Like,

723
00:44:25,050 --> 00:44:28,095
so you have no idea. Is he looking at the camera? Is he, you know,

724
00:44:28,575 --> 00:44:32,335
this thing, this, it's funny, this idea, this love looking at

725
00:44:32,335 --> 00:44:36,040
the camera takes a life of its own. There are some folks who are just

726
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,040
so dead set on like, you gotta be, you know, it's got this, it's

727
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,400
TV, you know, you gotta be looking at it. You got, you know, I'm still

728
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,095
staring at it right now, you know. You gotta be looking at straight at it,

729
00:44:46,095 --> 00:44:49,695
you know, those things. And then there's others that are kind of like, yeah, no,

730
00:44:49,695 --> 00:44:52,975
that's kind of creepy if you're just staring at it the whole time. So I

731
00:44:52,975 --> 00:44:56,820
always say go with what you're comfortable with. You know, if you want to be

732
00:44:56,820 --> 00:45:00,580
that person who stares at the camera and does it that way, that's fine. There's

733
00:45:00,580 --> 00:45:04,055
tools to do that. You can, there's all kinds of, they're making all kinds of

734
00:45:04,055 --> 00:45:07,815
things where you can get it, including teleprompters. I had somebody at work

735
00:45:07,815 --> 00:45:10,855
tell me, Hey, you need to get this teleprompter at work. And I'm like, I

736
00:45:10,855 --> 00:45:14,490
don't, I'm not gonna. Appreciate it.

737
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:18,390
I always, this freaks people out when I say things like this. But they'll

738
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:22,165
give me advice. You need to. And I'll go, Yeah, Okay. Yeah, but I'm not

739
00:45:22,165 --> 00:45:25,204
gonna do it. I just want to be really clear with you. I'm not doing

740
00:45:25,204 --> 00:45:28,540
what you told me to do. I don't know if people get that response very

741
00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:31,260
much from people. I think a lot of, Oh, yeah, well, thank you. Thank you

742
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:34,940
for your advice. I learned a long time ago, especially in

743
00:45:34,940 --> 00:45:38,515
the world of the open internet, people tell you things.

744
00:45:38,515 --> 00:45:42,275
And because they said them to you, they think you're going to

745
00:45:42,275 --> 00:45:45,720
do it. Like if you give them the passive aggressive answer, like,

746
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:49,960
Oh, I'll consider that. What they hear in their head is, Oh, he's gonna do

747
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,485
that. That's awesome. Right? And then you don't,

748
00:45:53,805 --> 00:45:57,185
and then they start flaming you like, I told

749
00:45:57,245 --> 00:46:00,945
Dave months ago he needed to, you know, whatever.

750
00:46:01,325 --> 00:46:05,070
And you're like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you did. But that doesn't mean we're gonna,

751
00:46:05,130 --> 00:46:08,970
that it's gonna happen. Like just, just because you said it in

752
00:46:08,970 --> 00:46:12,095
chat, even multiple times, doesn't

753
00:46:12,395 --> 00:46:16,175
mean it's true, it's valuable or it's what we're gonna do. Right?

754
00:46:16,555 --> 00:46:20,160
That is kind of back to the conversation before. That's really hard for

755
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,000
I'm noticing that's really hard for people. I see this all the time. I

756
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,735
told him to, you know, you're like, Yeah, that's okay.

757
00:46:27,875 --> 00:46:31,555
Appreciate the feedback. I'm not gonna do so I'm, I've changed

758
00:46:31,555 --> 00:46:35,320
my tune with people. And when they give me, they're like, Hey, do you

759
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,080
think, you know, what would really be great is if you did a show

760
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,305
on such and such and such. And I'm like, Oh, I appreciate the feedback. We

761
00:46:42,305 --> 00:46:45,985
probably won't do that, just to be really clear. I don't want to, I don't

762
00:46:45,985 --> 00:46:49,700
want to mislead you. And they're like, Oh, oh, you know.

763
00:46:49,780 --> 00:46:53,460
But that keeps it from, that keeps it come from flying back at

764
00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:57,234
me. Certainly, if you're going to consider it, consider it. But I think

765
00:46:57,234 --> 00:47:00,615
we gotta be, sometimes we gotta be honest with folks and just say,

766
00:47:00,994 --> 00:47:04,660
you know, Jim, that red does not look on you, does not look

767
00:47:04,660 --> 00:47:08,339
good on you today. You should never wear a red shirt. Okay, but I'm

768
00:47:08,339 --> 00:47:12,125
gonna, again, probably. I and I know

769
00:47:12,125 --> 00:47:15,505
it doesn't. It's not I should be blue. That's my color that I'm wearing.

770
00:47:16,285 --> 00:47:19,325
It's funny because as I say this, I'm like, oh, you're adding another thing for

771
00:47:19,325 --> 00:47:22,930
your show notes here. But Jordan Harbinger did a great episode

772
00:47:23,309 --> 00:47:27,150
on people asking for feedback. And he goes, 9 times out of

773
00:47:27,150 --> 00:47:30,915
10, what they're really saying is, I want you to agree with everything

774
00:47:30,915 --> 00:47:34,515
I've done to this point. He goes, they're they're not really which I get that,

775
00:47:34,515 --> 00:47:38,290
but it was just he's like, yeah, that doesn't work. Jody says, I know

776
00:47:38,290 --> 00:47:41,730
where the camera is, and I'll look into it for a bit. Sure. But I

777
00:47:41,730 --> 00:47:45,510
look away to the, you know, out of the frame of of my guest

778
00:47:45,735 --> 00:47:48,935
on my computer screen, I'm not going to worry about it. Yeah. That's the thing.

779
00:47:48,935 --> 00:47:52,715
I think if we worry about it, then you end up getting

780
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,280
then it becomes weird because then you're you're like like Ralph was

781
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,580
perfectly normal. Like he was blinking. He wasn't. It was just like,

782
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,944
you know, it was just like, oh, it's fine. It's fine. It'll get better. That's,

783
00:48:05,944 --> 00:48:09,704
we're saying this in the chat room. This technology will get infinitely better. I'm

784
00:48:09,704 --> 00:48:12,664
just afraid I'm gonna turn my head and my eyes are gonna come out my

785
00:48:12,664 --> 00:48:16,030
ears. You know, that's just,

786
00:48:16,330 --> 00:48:20,170
that's just what I'm worried about. Yeah. Ralph is saying, So what I'm hearing is

787
00:48:20,170 --> 00:48:23,975
lighten up on the eye contact. Woo, maybe, you know. You gotta move

788
00:48:23,975 --> 00:48:27,255
around a little. I think you gotta move around a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. And

789
00:48:27,255 --> 00:48:31,095
he said yeah. Randy says not blinking is the issue. Well, he is blinking. It

790
00:48:31,095 --> 00:48:34,730
was just I like I said, I I was wondering sometimes, you

791
00:48:34,730 --> 00:48:38,490
know, I listen through the ears of a podcaster and I watch the the

792
00:48:38,490 --> 00:48:41,855
eye of a of a content creator and I'm like, what is different?

793
00:48:41,915 --> 00:48:45,355
So it's, I was like, is it just me? Am I being too picky

794
00:48:45,355 --> 00:48:48,975
here? So Lighten up, Francis.

795
00:48:51,170 --> 00:48:54,130
To you, that's a really bad spot in the movie. That's, it was a great

796
00:48:54,130 --> 00:48:57,865
quote. It's a terrible spot in the movie. It doesn't it that doesn't hold

797
00:48:57,865 --> 00:49:01,705
up anymore in 2024. Oh. There's a

798
00:49:01,945 --> 00:49:04,905
You can't you can't watch that. You can't you can't do that, though. I need

799
00:49:04,905 --> 00:49:08,740
a psycho. Do it. No. Don't do it. It's a bad spot, dude. Don't call

800
00:49:08,740 --> 00:49:12,579
me Frank. It's Francis. That's too funny. Stripes, if you haven't

801
00:49:12,579 --> 00:49:16,315
seen it, classic Bill Murray. I know, Francis. Well,

802
00:49:16,315 --> 00:49:20,075
the one thing I thought I would bring up, if I can find it here,

803
00:49:20,075 --> 00:49:23,790
is the podcast show in London

804
00:49:23,790 --> 00:49:27,390
came up and James Cridland was talking about

805
00:49:27,390 --> 00:49:30,450
it. And you know how much I love Spotify.

806
00:49:31,295 --> 00:49:34,815
And this is yet another reason we should call this the yet another reason why

807
00:49:34,815 --> 00:49:38,415
Dave is not a Spotify fan. But here is James talking

808
00:49:38,415 --> 00:49:42,260
about the one thing because they had like they reported, like, 10,000

809
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,180
people at this thing. And it was he said, really, there wasn't

810
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,119
really anything wrong with it except for this one thing.

811
00:51:02,975 --> 00:51:06,335
Yes. It does. So I I heard that. My favorite part of that whole

812
00:51:06,335 --> 00:51:10,100
thing, a delicious rumor. Oh my god.

813
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:13,859
But James Cridland? Who is that? I've never heard that. That is James Cridland.

814
00:51:13,859 --> 00:51:17,565
Yeah. Who? No. Pod News Weekly is I I listen to his

815
00:51:17,565 --> 00:51:21,165
daily stuff, and then he and Sam Sethi from True Fans get

816
00:51:21,165 --> 00:51:24,625
together for Pod News Weekly, and they kinda go over the top stories

817
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:28,900
and, report on stuff. So, yeah, everybody it's funny. Larry's like, was there

818
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:32,420
really 10,000 people? We're all kinda, like, going, well, it was

819
00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:36,205
reported 10,000 people. And I'm like, well, I'm reporting I'm a male

820
00:51:36,205 --> 00:51:39,885
model, but that doesn't make it true. So I'm like, you

821
00:51:39,885 --> 00:51:43,185
know, come on now. Don't make fun of my you googly.

822
00:51:44,070 --> 00:51:47,430
Yeah. And so that was the kind of the thing Jody says, well, isn't that

823
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:50,950
what Spotify is? It's a walled garden, especially now that they no longer use the

824
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:54,735
accepted stat strikers. Yeah. And John John is

825
00:51:54,735 --> 00:51:58,115
like, look, I just despise Spotify and YouTube. So

826
00:51:58,735 --> 00:52:02,119
James is a good guy. If you're not listening to pod news, he he covers

827
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:05,579
the news. Like, I'll put it this way. There were 2 other people

828
00:52:06,279 --> 00:52:09,995
doing, like, podcast news and newsletters, and

829
00:52:09,995 --> 00:52:13,215
they're both gone. Like, he just came in. And

830
00:52:13,675 --> 00:52:16,815
how he does it? I don't know. But it was

831
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,820
he just he's all over the globe. Like he's like, oh, from

832
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,675
Guadalupeur. And then I'm in New York. And it was funny. At the end of

833
00:52:25,675 --> 00:52:28,155
that, he said he was talking about how he got to go to New York

834
00:52:28,155 --> 00:52:31,995
City and he was in more of the financial district

835
00:52:31,995 --> 00:52:35,280
versus midtown. So it wasn't quite so crazy.

836
00:52:35,740 --> 00:52:39,020
And he goes, and now I'm in Florida. And he just left it like that,

837
00:52:39,020 --> 00:52:42,860
like, okay, maybe not his favorite place, especially this time

838
00:52:42,860 --> 00:52:46,544
of year. It's got to be super muggy down there, but he he covers it

839
00:52:46,544 --> 00:52:50,375
all. And the thing I like about James Cridlin is for the most

840
00:52:50,375 --> 00:52:54,080
part, if he gets something wrong, he will say, okay, I

841
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,060
got this wrong. This is what was in the press release.

842
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,215
And this is, you know, this is what the truth is.

843
00:53:01,375 --> 00:53:05,055
And, you know, so it's not so much that he lied. It's that maybe the

844
00:53:05,055 --> 00:53:07,935
press release was not as accurate as it should have been. And if that guy

845
00:53:07,935 --> 00:53:11,319
had to fact check every press release, he'd never report on

846
00:53:11,319 --> 00:53:14,779
anything. So Yeah. I he hustles for sure.

847
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,494
Like, you know, people are gonna say, how how I how did he, how did

848
00:53:18,494 --> 00:53:20,975
he get so successful? How did because he kind of came I don't want to

849
00:53:20,975 --> 00:53:24,655
say came out of nowhere, but when all of a sudden, boom, it

850
00:53:24,655 --> 00:53:28,120
was there. And to do what he does at the

851
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,720
volume he does in the spaces he does, he's gotta be hustling all the time.

852
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:35,240
I think this is one of those areas I'm sure he's working 7 days a

853
00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:38,905
week in most cases. And he's doing things at all

854
00:53:38,905 --> 00:53:42,204
hours of the day and night. That's, if you want to be in journalism,

855
00:53:42,585 --> 00:53:46,420
that's the life you need to live. You can't take breaks, because stuff is happening

856
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,000
all the time. And yeah, in the podcast space, maybe it slows down a little

857
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,775
bit. But I'm sure he is working hard. To go

858
00:53:53,775 --> 00:53:57,474
all the way back to our beginning conversation about creating a business

859
00:53:57,615 --> 00:54:01,369
as a coach, I think the No. One bit, you got to hustle. And I

860
00:54:01,369 --> 00:54:04,810
know people don't like that. You know, they're like, Oh, I need a worklife balance.

861
00:54:04,810 --> 00:54:08,430
Well, then go work for somebody. If you want balance,

862
00:54:08,650 --> 00:54:12,165
go work for somebody. If you want to, if you want to set your own

863
00:54:12,165 --> 00:54:15,925
hours, you're gonna set a lot of them. You're gonna set a

864
00:54:15,925 --> 00:54:19,700
lot for yourself. Just, just get, get it, just

865
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:23,460
get that in your mind, right? Now, if you're saying right

866
00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:26,905
now to yourself, Jim, you're wrong. Good prove me wrong. Do it.

867
00:54:27,225 --> 00:54:31,065
Like, I don't care. Listen, if you have a successful business

868
00:54:31,065 --> 00:54:34,819
on 2 hours a day or 2 hours a week, good for

869
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,020
you. The rest of us need to hustle. Yeah. Absolutely.

870
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,079
Well, Doctor has a fun point. She goes, Pod News and the

871
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:45,865
feed, they give me street cred. It's so weird where my,

872
00:54:46,105 --> 00:54:49,944
computer is because you know what else what else would give you street cred? Being

873
00:54:49,944 --> 00:54:53,430
an awesome supporter. That's right. If you wanna be an awesome

874
00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:56,970
supporter, you can go over to ask the podcast coach.com/awesome.

875
00:54:59,405 --> 00:55:03,245
And that, of course, some other things here. You can be an awesome supporter.

876
00:55:03,245 --> 00:55:06,125
You can also be a member of the School of Podcasting where you're gonna get

877
00:55:06,125 --> 00:55:09,630
access to my step by step courses. You get unlimited

878
00:55:09,630 --> 00:55:13,070
coaching. I was talking about some coaching clients today. And like I said, I got

879
00:55:13,070 --> 00:55:16,905
to do some coaching at Lipson, which is always fun. And the awesome community.

880
00:55:16,905 --> 00:55:20,585
We're talking about that. I will put my community up against anybody's

881
00:55:20,585 --> 00:55:23,805
because we've got a just a wide variety of people, and they're all awesome.

882
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,800
And Ask the Podcast Coach runs on PodPage. If you wanna try

883
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,160
PodPage, go to try podpage.com. Or if you wanna learn

884
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PodPage, go to learn podpage.com. Both of those use my

885
00:55:34,685 --> 00:55:38,525
affiliate link. And right now, we're using E cam. If you

886
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wanna check it out, go to ask the podcast coach.com/ecamm.

887
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:46,329
And that's E cam with 2 m's because, it's so good. And

888
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:50,295
I'm going to be at and it's all Jeff's fault. Jeff, I

889
00:55:50,295 --> 00:55:54,055
spent money because of you. So if this sucks, I'm coming for you. No. I'm

890
00:55:54,055 --> 00:55:57,115
just kidding. I'm going to, Ecamm

891
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:01,520
Creator Camp in, kind of Boston, but not really.

892
00:56:01,660 --> 00:56:05,305
So if you're going there, I will see you there. That's gonna be fun. And,

893
00:56:05,464 --> 00:56:08,984
if you need more Jim Collison and look who doesn't need more Jim

894
00:56:08,984 --> 00:56:12,765
Collison, then go over and it's your pick.

895
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,480
You can go to home gadgetgeeks.com or if you want to be

896
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,760
crazy and wild, you can go to the average guy dot tv and those both

897
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,295
take you to the same place. And it's time for our awesome

898
00:56:23,755 --> 00:56:27,195
fun filled, as soon as I get it ready, the

899
00:56:27,195 --> 00:56:30,960
Wheel O' names. Here we go. We have them

900
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,359
all? Are they all on there? We have them all. I just have to I

901
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:37,119
double checked this morning, and I was like, okay. So we'll we'll spin the

902
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:39,695
wheel here and round and round it goes.

903
00:56:40,875 --> 00:56:44,575
And who will it land on? It is

904
00:56:44,954 --> 00:56:48,190
Max Trescott from aviation news talk.com.

905
00:56:49,130 --> 00:56:52,910
If you are a pilot and you wanna stay up on the news,

906
00:56:53,185 --> 00:56:56,945
it's, I know occasionally you go over there and you'll get the news where,

907
00:56:56,945 --> 00:57:00,760
unfortunately, somebody crashed and and they'll dig into what happened

908
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,280
and things of that nature. So, Max, thank you so much for your

909
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,980
awesome support. I always appreciate that really good guy too.

910
00:57:08,355 --> 00:57:12,115
And if you find this show that it we're saving you time, we're saving you

911
00:57:12,115 --> 00:57:15,795
money, maybe we're saving you headaches, maybe we're keeping

912
00:57:15,795 --> 00:57:19,380
you educated, Maybe we're just making you feel like you're not alone in the

913
00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:23,059
world. But then you might wanna consider going over to ask the podcast

914
00:57:23,059 --> 00:57:26,645
coach.com/awesome and being an awesome supporter

915
00:57:27,105 --> 00:57:30,865
today and since let's go back here and except that's not where

916
00:57:30,865 --> 00:57:34,710
I wanted to go. The next little kind of topic

917
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:38,470
I thought we could talk about is there was a

918
00:57:38,550 --> 00:57:42,325
not a kerfuffle, but it was an interesting take. I love

919
00:57:42,325 --> 00:57:45,845
this guy. This is one of the guys that he's he's more of a

920
00:57:46,484 --> 00:57:50,085
like, he yeah. He talks about YouTube. He's really popular on YouTube. If you wanna

921
00:57:50,085 --> 00:57:53,750
learn DaVinci Resolve, this is your guy, Daniel

922
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:57,510
Batal, b a t a l. And he says, the last thing I want to

923
00:57:57,510 --> 00:58:01,095
hear at the end of a video is thanks for watching my video. Don't forget

924
00:58:01,095 --> 00:58:04,615
to like and subscribe, which I've been telling people, no, you you

925
00:58:04,615 --> 00:58:08,370
probably should do that because, Jim, if you ever liked and

926
00:58:08,370 --> 00:58:12,050
subscribed to something because he somebody said, hey.

927
00:58:12,050 --> 00:58:15,730
If you like this video, I can so yeah. Me too. I have. Yeah. I've

928
00:58:16,435 --> 00:58:20,195
and so he said this isn't 2017, and viewers don't need to be reminded

929
00:58:20,195 --> 00:58:24,035
that they are watching a video or that the like and subscribe

930
00:58:24,035 --> 00:58:27,750
button exists. Take the opportunity to offer something of value, like

931
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:31,510
recommending an additional video you've made that might really serve the needs of

932
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:35,115
that viewer. He says, look, don't get me wrong. Engagement is

933
00:58:35,115 --> 00:58:38,955
great, but additional video views and longer watch time sessions will help

934
00:58:38,955 --> 00:58:42,555
grow your channel faster than clicking a like and subscribe

935
00:58:42,555 --> 00:58:46,390
button. He says new viewers who watch and enjoy multiple pieces of

936
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:50,069
your content in a single session are far more likely to subscribe

937
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:53,734
and engage. They're also likely to be served more

938
00:58:53,954 --> 00:58:57,795
of your content in the future. Don't waste your ask. And

939
00:58:57,795 --> 00:59:01,089
I was like, interesting. So

940
00:59:01,410 --> 00:59:04,470
That's a little strong, I think. A little strong.

941
00:59:04,930 --> 00:59:08,675
However, there is some, there is a little bit of evidence that YouTube

942
00:59:08,675 --> 00:59:09,175
subscribing,

943
00:59:14,355 --> 00:59:18,089
right? You can get all notifications or just important ones, of subscribing, right? You can

944
00:59:18,089 --> 00:59:21,770
get all notifications or just important ones, whatever that means, right,

945
00:59:21,770 --> 00:59:25,585
or on the bell. Smash the bell, as folks used to

946
00:59:25,585 --> 00:59:29,425
say. There is some evidence that the, it used to be when you

947
00:59:29,425 --> 00:59:33,110
were subscribed, those on the top row would always show up.

948
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:36,170
There were new ones, they'd always show up on the top row of your search.

949
00:59:38,070 --> 00:59:41,670
That may not be true anymore. And so there, there may be some

950
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:45,515
validity to this that the subscribe may not be as important. That

951
00:59:45,515 --> 00:59:49,055
used to be everything. Subscribe was everything on YouTube.

952
00:59:49,434 --> 00:59:52,910
There's some evidence that's getting, that that may be getting downplayed. Because

953
00:59:52,910 --> 00:59:56,750
the, the search page on YouTube is the most

954
00:59:56,750 --> 01:00:00,415
important thing. Every, almost everyone goes there

955
01:00:00,635 --> 01:00:04,095
to get to, when, especially when they're just surfing for stuff, right?

956
01:00:04,555 --> 01:00:08,400
So it may not be as important. I don't agree with the

957
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,080
ask. Don't, don't waste your ask. I think you can blend that

958
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,785
in to the video itself at some point in time.

959
01:00:15,785 --> 01:00:19,225
And so like, if you're currently watching us on YouTube right now, why don't you

960
01:00:19,225 --> 01:00:22,730
like and subscribe? Why wouldn't you just do that for me? Please. And smash the

961
01:00:22,730 --> 01:00:26,490
bell because it's a bell and all yeah. So I went back

962
01:00:26,490 --> 01:00:29,850
and I I went down. This was on, Twitter, I believe, is where this came

963
01:00:29,850 --> 01:00:33,484
from. And he says, it's not that I'm against people choosing whatever call to

964
01:00:33,484 --> 01:00:37,005
action makes sense for their own goals. He goes, I just hate seeing struggling

965
01:00:37,005 --> 01:00:40,470
creators thinking the path to success is constantly asking people to like and

966
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:44,230
subscribe. He goes, that rarely works if the content and channel aren't

967
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:47,885
already providing massive value. And as soon as he said that, I'm like, that's a

968
01:00:47,885 --> 01:00:51,645
different story. That's what I believe creators should be focused on. And I said,

969
01:00:51,645 --> 01:00:55,290
yeah. So many people focus on marketing and promotion when they forget to

970
01:00:55,290 --> 01:00:59,050
not just make something good, but something wow, which is coming out

971
01:00:59,050 --> 01:01:02,490
in 2 weeks on The School of Podcasting. I'm doing an episode about wow

972
01:01:02,490 --> 01:01:06,095
content. With that said, I have subscribed because someone

973
01:01:06,095 --> 01:01:09,795
reminded me to, but it was because I got value. So I think that's really

974
01:01:10,174 --> 01:01:13,450
I think Yeah. You know, like, he's it's bad. Yeah.

975
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:17,750
Yeah. I don't think it's bad. I think you need to ask. Yeah. And if

976
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:20,650
it's live and you don't know what video to suggest,

977
01:01:21,515 --> 01:01:25,275
you know, like, oh, hey, since we talked about this today, watch this

978
01:01:25,275 --> 01:01:28,955
video. I've seen people do that with, like, watch this video here, and

979
01:01:28,955 --> 01:01:32,650
then nothing pops up on the screen. And you're like, well, wait a minute. Somebody,

980
01:01:32,650 --> 01:01:36,250
somebody dropped the ball there. Well, look, look at Jeff. I mean,

981
01:01:36,250 --> 01:01:39,515
Jeff dropped a Super Chat in and

982
01:01:41,335 --> 01:01:44,395
Yeah, look at that. Look at that. Thanks, Jeff. Thanks for,

983
01:01:45,015 --> 01:01:48,360
thanks for supporting Dave in that way. And

984
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:52,260
appreciate that. Dave's looking for some cheering I am. I'm like, where's my David

985
01:01:52,260 --> 01:01:56,025
Lee Roth, man? I got Craig. I got

986
01:01:56,105 --> 01:01:59,945
wait. What? Nope. Nothing. Oh, here we go. Whoo. Thank

987
01:01:59,945 --> 01:02:03,785
you very much. We need that. Thanks, Jeff. Yeah. Thanks, Jeff. Appreciate

988
01:02:03,785 --> 01:02:07,609
it. Oh, look at that. That's it. Sure. Yeah. So and speaking

989
01:02:07,609 --> 01:02:11,050
of that, you know, you can down down by gym there. There it is. A

990
01:02:11,050 --> 01:02:14,765
little like, subscribe, and ring the bell. It's

991
01:02:14,765 --> 01:02:18,605
like we planned this whole segment just

992
01:02:18,605 --> 01:02:22,045
so people would subscribe. Do you, as as a content

993
01:02:22,045 --> 01:02:25,859
creator, do you by the way, there's, there's some backlash against that

994
01:02:25,859 --> 01:02:29,220
term now, Content Creator. Really? What's wrong with that?

995
01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:32,885
Yeah. Well, I saw something somewhere. Stop

996
01:02:32,885 --> 01:02:35,945
saying you're a content creator. Like, I don't know.

997
01:02:36,965 --> 01:02:40,380
It's just, it's like anything. Do you, for, for your

998
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:43,339
subscribes, for your like and subscribes, do you, how often do you go in and

999
01:02:43,339 --> 01:02:46,940
check them on YouTube? Is that something you That

1000
01:02:46,940 --> 01:02:50,665
is, I don't. I, in fact, I've I need to get

1001
01:02:50,825 --> 01:02:54,585
like, the only thing I do consistently on my YouTube channel is this. In

1002
01:02:54,585 --> 01:02:58,400
fact, that's one of the things I wanna do this this weekend is

1003
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,920
make kinda get, like, it's it's that first step back on the

1004
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,515
treadmill because I used to do just a little short YouTube

1005
01:03:05,515 --> 01:03:09,275
thing about once a week and then more like 3 times a month.

1006
01:03:09,275 --> 01:03:12,369
Like, I'd probably skip 1. And I'm like, I don't know what happened, then I'm

1007
01:03:12,369 --> 01:03:16,210
not doing YouTube anymore, but I need to do YouTube. And not because I

1008
01:03:16,210 --> 01:03:19,575
have to, because it's so cool and everybody's doing it. You know? I was just

1009
01:03:19,575 --> 01:03:22,695
like, no. I I got a couple ideas. I'm I don't know why. I just

1010
01:03:22,695 --> 01:03:26,535
kinda, you know, was like, just but yeah. So

1011
01:03:26,535 --> 01:03:30,029
I because that's my whole thing. Will people you know, if I wanna get on

1012
01:03:30,029 --> 01:03:33,789
my YouTube's not a podcast, you know, soapbox, I'm like,

1013
01:03:33,789 --> 01:03:37,445
look. In the end, it was good. We're all just content creators. So if we're

1014
01:03:37,445 --> 01:03:41,205
not content creators, what are we? That's, you know, like, that's that's a

1015
01:03:41,205 --> 01:03:44,885
nice broad brush. Whether if you're a blogger, you're a content

1016
01:03:44,885 --> 01:03:48,700
creator. If you're a audio podcast, you're a content creator. If

1017
01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:52,460
you're, you know, if you're a I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I'm

1018
01:03:52,460 --> 01:03:56,225
just saying I saw a little backlash to it. That's just That's always why not?

1019
01:03:56,525 --> 01:04:00,285
I'm not giving it backlash. I saw some backlash. I always thought it was

1020
01:04:00,285 --> 01:04:04,020
funny that people would get upset about the word pod fade. And I never

1021
01:04:04,020 --> 01:04:07,560
ever heard anybody go, you're just a dirty little podfader.

1022
01:04:07,780 --> 01:04:10,760
Like, I've never heard it. It was always like, well, you know, and they podfaded.

1023
01:04:11,185 --> 01:04:14,805
And it was like, it's not like, you know, that Seinfeld,

1024
01:04:15,265 --> 01:04:19,025
that guy, well, he did 9 seasons, so then he pod faded. But

1025
01:04:19,025 --> 01:04:22,640
people for a while, like, how dare you say pod fade? You're you're

1026
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,420
kicking people out of the space because you're shaming them. I'm they

1027
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,405
pod faded. They quit. Like, nothing wrong with I maybe I should have

1028
01:04:30,405 --> 01:04:34,085
said they pod retired. Pod tired. No. Well, then

1029
01:04:34,085 --> 01:04:36,670
we're all pod tired. I mean, look at us. We got bags on our eyes.

1030
01:04:36,670 --> 01:04:40,350
Do we have to put Pod in front of it? Does it have to?

1031
01:04:40,350 --> 01:04:44,055
Does it have to? I the the, Rich

1032
01:04:44,135 --> 01:04:47,575
Hay, who I interviewed this week for Home Gage Geeks, he had been a

1033
01:04:47,575 --> 01:04:51,275
longtime podcaster and blogger and then took a job at Microsoft

1034
01:04:51,575 --> 01:04:55,240
as a Community Manager for their feedback team. And they

1035
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,920
said, I think they said, No, stop. You have to stop. If you're gonna do

1036
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,280
this, you can't do any of your own stuff. And

1037
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,075
he, he just did. He did he stopped. And,

1038
01:05:06,075 --> 01:05:09,915
and he's now retiring. And he says, I'm bringing it

1039
01:05:09,915 --> 01:05:12,829
back. And so good, good on him, right, for

1040
01:05:13,690 --> 01:05:17,530
going with what was available. I mean, in the role, they were just like,

1041
01:05:17,530 --> 01:05:21,255
Yeah, no. And to be honest with you, I don't know

1042
01:05:21,255 --> 01:05:25,015
if they said he needed to stop or he thought, I'm gonna be so

1043
01:05:25,015 --> 01:05:28,840
busy I'm not gonna have the time to do this, to commit to

1044
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,600
this. Because, listen, community management is a full time and when

1045
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,435
I say full time, I mean all the time job. That's

1046
01:05:36,435 --> 01:05:40,275
what I do. I'm on all the time. I'm even, I mean, as this conference

1047
01:05:40,275 --> 01:05:44,035
is going on, I'm getting pinged behind the scenes on Facebook and LinkedIn.

1048
01:05:44,035 --> 01:05:47,630
We're in Omaha! You know, folks are landing right now. My

1049
01:05:47,630 --> 01:05:51,250
listeners, my, my community is landing right now.

1050
01:05:51,710 --> 01:05:55,214
And so you, you, Yeah, yeah, and you can divide and conquer and all those

1051
01:05:55,214 --> 01:05:57,695
other things that you guys want to do to make it, to make it work,

1052
01:05:57,695 --> 01:06:00,415
but it's a full time job. So Dave, I don't want to, I'm not trying

1053
01:06:00,415 --> 01:06:04,080
to throw Microsoft or Rich under the bus at all on this and just to,

1054
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,000
he, let's just say this: He chose to stop, stop blogging and

1055
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,840
stop podcasting. As he's retiring this summer, he said, You know what?

1056
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,525
I'm bringing it back. And I really appreciate

1057
01:06:22,180 --> 01:06:26,020
Do it when you feel like it. I mean, it can just be something you

1058
01:06:26,020 --> 01:06:29,745
do. It doesn't have to be, you know, you don't have to feel don't, it's

1059
01:06:29,745 --> 01:06:33,345
hard enough as it is. Don't feel bad when you're doing what

1060
01:06:33,345 --> 01:06:37,185
works for you. Right? And, and certainly don't bow to

1061
01:06:37,185 --> 01:06:41,020
the crowd who's, I haven't seen an episode in 45

1062
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,079
days. Where have you been? Well, you know, you get it for free. Just

1063
01:06:45,079 --> 01:06:48,745
relax. Well, s Just relax. SP

1064
01:06:48,745 --> 01:06:52,585
says conflict of interest and brand security are real. So that would be

1065
01:06:52,585 --> 01:06:56,360
weird. Yeah. So if somebody if somebody hired me and said, you can

1066
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,120
do this, but you can't podcast anymore, that would be

1067
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,840
weird. That you'd have to pay me a lot of money to shut me up

1068
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,535
completely. His his podcast was about Windows.

1069
01:07:06,535 --> 01:07:10,295
It's one of the reasons he got it's called Windows Observer. And it was one

1070
01:07:10,295 --> 01:07:14,059
of the reasons he got hired for the job is because he knew so much

1071
01:07:14,059 --> 01:07:17,819
about the community and That is a shortsighted company.

1072
01:07:17,819 --> 01:07:21,005
So you've got an influence No, no, no. I know. Hold on. Hold on. I

1073
01:07:21,005 --> 01:07:24,765
want to go on record again for saying, I don't know

1074
01:07:24,765 --> 01:07:28,570
if Microsoft asked him not to, and I don't know if it was his decision.

1075
01:07:28,970 --> 01:07:32,170
I may have, I may have said they did. And if I did, I could

1076
01:07:32,170 --> 01:07:35,630
be wrong. So let me just retract. I'll do a James Cridland,

1077
01:07:35,770 --> 01:07:39,545
whoever that guy is, retraction on this. And say,

1078
01:07:39,545 --> 01:07:43,225
I'm not sure who, who did that. I assume, I, maybe I could go back

1079
01:07:43,225 --> 01:07:46,845
and look at my transcripts and see, see what was said. Doesn't,

1080
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,880
the point, the point of that whole thing is not that.

1081
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,565
The point was, he decided to take a break. He took

1082
01:07:54,565 --> 01:07:58,325
a break for 2 years, two and a half years, then he came back. And

1083
01:07:58,325 --> 01:08:01,925
you could do that. That was the point. Sorry to, sorry to go down the,

1084
01:08:01,925 --> 01:08:05,590
to go down that path. John says, I brought a podcast back after 4

1085
01:08:05,590 --> 01:08:09,190
years. It's my favorite. We do it once a month for fun. There you

1086
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:13,035
go. Why not? Yeah. Lane says if you missed a week, I

1087
01:08:13,035 --> 01:08:16,795
listened to so many podcasts. I probably wouldn't notice until I actually thought about it.

1088
01:08:16,795 --> 01:08:20,620
You guys wanna you guys wanna hear something? I'm I'm I'm going to

1089
01:08:20,620 --> 01:08:23,680
cheat. Last night, it was beautiful out, and

1090
01:08:24,940 --> 01:08:28,045
I'd had a hard week. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to

1091
01:08:28,045 --> 01:08:31,404
the park. I'm gonna go play in nature, maybe have a deer come up and

1092
01:08:31,404 --> 01:08:35,245
try to kick me. Something fun. Right? And so instead of

1093
01:08:35,245 --> 01:08:39,040
recording your podcast website, I will

1094
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,640
do that today. But here's the fun part. I'm going to

1095
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,020
say that it came out yesterday. That's right. I'm gonna lie.

1096
01:08:46,864 --> 01:08:50,625
So Why do you need to? Why do you need to? You

1097
01:08:50,625 --> 01:08:54,359
know, it's a it's a it's a Sheldon kind of thing. I wanna show

1098
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:56,939
that it comes out every 2 weeks on Friday.

1099
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,395
So, yes, I'm a big fat liar because I I didn't it didn't come

1100
01:09:01,395 --> 01:09:05,175
out. Yeah. But I don't It doesn't have to be a lie. I'm just kind

1101
01:09:05,234 --> 01:09:08,995
of wondering what's the motivate. Listen, I like a complete

1102
01:09:08,995 --> 01:09:12,810
list. I like things, you know, I like, if you, if it's gonna come out

1103
01:09:12,810 --> 01:09:16,350
on Monday, I love that thing to say Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday.

1104
01:09:16,410 --> 01:09:19,935
I love that. So I would set it just so it looked good.

1105
01:09:20,234 --> 01:09:24,075
Right? It looked good in the feed or whatever, whatever you're

1106
01:09:24,075 --> 01:09:27,460
doing there. Now, I'm just wondering what the motivation was. I don't think it's wrong.

1107
01:09:27,460 --> 01:09:31,300
I'm just wondering what, you know, why? Why do you, why you can

1108
01:09:31,300 --> 01:09:34,805
help? It's a very Sheldon thing. You know, it's just like, oh, yeah. It's supposed

1109
01:09:34,805 --> 01:09:38,505
to come out on Fridays. And and I guess because in this in this

1110
01:09:38,564 --> 01:09:41,960
instance, like, I have some shows that are test shows, and that show is kind

1111
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,580
of a test show. I'm having fun with it, but I'm like, well, for now,

1112
01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:49,635
I kind of wanted to at least appear that it's consistent even even if I'm

1113
01:09:49,875 --> 01:09:53,715
24 hours late because I woke up this morning to 1,000,000,000 of emails going,

1114
01:09:53,715 --> 01:09:57,510
hey, man. Where's the your podcast? What? No. I did not. So I don't know.

1115
01:09:57,590 --> 01:10:01,350
Seen it. I haven't seen it. Are you okay? Yeah. Something else just to

1116
01:10:01,350 --> 01:10:04,870
throw it up here. Just a way of saying thank you, Jeff, for making,

1117
01:10:05,190 --> 01:10:08,585
making it rain here. If you go over to social media news live.com,

1118
01:10:09,365 --> 01:10:12,725
that is where can I not? I cannot make it rain. I guess I can't

1119
01:10:12,725 --> 01:10:15,699
make it rain if I'm sharing the screen there. So think of that. Yeah, it's

1120
01:10:15,699 --> 01:10:19,300
a fun show. In fact It is a fun show. It is a fun

1121
01:10:19,300 --> 01:10:23,060
show. Yeah. Jeff and Jeff is really good at reusing content. Like

1122
01:10:23,060 --> 01:10:25,965
he I saw, I think I saw yesterday

1123
01:10:26,425 --> 01:10:29,945
some, a reused clip of when I was on there. He pulled out a

1124
01:10:29,945 --> 01:10:33,680
little statement. We were talking about being nervous and

1125
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,660
how I like to think that you can harvest harvest?

1126
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,420
Yeah. Harness? That's the word I want. You can harness

1127
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,285
nervous energy for better performance, right? I think it's a good thing to be

1128
01:10:44,285 --> 01:10:47,345
nervous on some of these things. Anyways, he took that little clip

1129
01:10:47,885 --> 01:10:51,565
and reshared it. He said to me several times, he goes, I, he goes, I

1130
01:10:51,565 --> 01:10:55,340
really like to, you know, continue to use bits and pieces.

1131
01:10:55,639 --> 01:10:59,159
He's probably a good example if you're, if you want to see how

1132
01:10:59,159 --> 01:11:02,855
other people are taking are not just doing a 1 and done, but are

1133
01:11:02,855 --> 01:11:06,535
continuing to use Clips and Bits and some of those other

1134
01:11:06,535 --> 01:11:10,180
things throughout. Jeff's probably doing it as good as anybody.

1135
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,260
Absolutely. And I I finally went through his course.

1136
01:11:14,765 --> 01:11:18,605
He has a a Descript 101. And it's

1137
01:11:18,605 --> 01:11:21,985
interesting when because I done a thing where

1138
01:11:22,830 --> 01:11:26,350
I know you can this Descript is the tool where you it

1139
01:11:26,350 --> 01:11:30,190
transcribes it. You edit the transcription, then it edits the audio. And I

1140
01:11:30,190 --> 01:11:33,405
know you can copy it and paste it into a new

1141
01:11:33,705 --> 01:11:37,545
composition, and which I did. And then I couldn't find

1142
01:11:37,545 --> 01:11:41,230
the new composition. And I'm watching Jeff's thing, and all of a

1143
01:11:41,230 --> 01:11:43,470
sudden, I see at the top where he's like, oh, you can just switch to

1144
01:11:43,470 --> 01:11:46,670
the composition up there. And I'm like, there you go. That was worth the money

1145
01:11:46,670 --> 01:11:50,395
right there. He solved my one he solved my one problem. I was

1146
01:11:50,395 --> 01:11:54,235
like, that's it. So Jody says, she stopped her

1147
01:11:54,235 --> 01:11:57,970
first show because it wasn't what I really wanted to be doing. But

1148
01:11:57,970 --> 01:12:01,090
it sure taught me a lot about how to do a podcast, and I've used

1149
01:12:01,090 --> 01:12:04,690
those lessons. I know a lot of people that it was the

1150
01:12:04,850 --> 01:12:08,565
oh, Grammar Girl is probably my my favorite one. Grammar Girl was

1151
01:12:08,565 --> 01:12:12,265
Mignon Fogarty's second podcast, you know, the one that got her on Oprah.

1152
01:12:12,485 --> 01:12:16,245
But her first show was super labor intensive. It wasn't

1153
01:12:16,245 --> 01:12:19,849
really her passion. It was kind of something related to her job,

1154
01:12:19,989 --> 01:12:23,550
and she's like, yeah. No. Thank you. So but

1155
01:12:23,670 --> 01:12:27,495
and speaking of of changing, this is now available. I

1156
01:12:27,495 --> 01:12:31,195
I've got my first kind of that's a trailer. It's a really long trailer,

1157
01:12:31,495 --> 01:12:35,335
but podcast what was formerly podcast rodeo show, so I'm gonna put out

1158
01:12:35,335 --> 01:12:38,929
an episode. I have a lot of episodes to do this week, but I'm going

1159
01:12:38,929 --> 01:12:42,290
to put one out on podcast rodeo show saying unless you pay

1160
01:12:42,290 --> 01:12:46,105
me, I'm not doing the show anymore, basically, because that's just a

1161
01:12:46,105 --> 01:12:49,485
show. And I was like, I had fun. I did 500

1162
01:12:49,545 --> 01:12:53,040
episodes, but we're not doing this for for free anymore. And the podcast

1163
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,880
rodeo show was $5. And I was I might do that with that.

1164
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,275
Like, if you just want the quick 10 minute episode, alright. That's

1165
01:13:00,275 --> 01:13:03,875
fine. But if you wanna really 500? I did

1166
01:13:03,875 --> 01:13:07,650
500 episodes. When that show first came out, I was

1167
01:13:07,650 --> 01:13:11,330
doing, I think, 3 a week. And Wow. Because it was it's

1168
01:13:11,330 --> 01:13:14,985
quick. It's like an hour to do that show. And I was

1169
01:13:14,985 --> 01:13:18,825
just like, yeah. And I was like, okay. And then the fact that it

1170
01:13:18,825 --> 01:13:21,945
wasn't doing what I wanted it to do, which was drive traffic to the school

1171
01:13:21,945 --> 01:13:25,750
of podcasting. So hot seat. Here's what podcast hot seat is

1172
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:29,530
really in a nutshell. It's you get a month of the school of podcasting.

1173
01:13:29,909 --> 01:13:33,225
Oh, and I'll review your show and website and, you know, for free, because because

1174
01:13:33,225 --> 01:13:36,824
it's basically the price of a month at the school of podcasting. And then,

1175
01:13:37,945 --> 01:13:41,225
once you sign up, there may be a coupon to have you stick around, but

1176
01:13:41,225 --> 01:13:44,780
we'll see how it works. But that's another fun filled piece of artwork by the

1177
01:13:44,780 --> 01:13:48,220
one and only Mark over at podcastbranding.co. And what's kind of

1178
01:13:48,220 --> 01:13:51,580
cool, I'm gonna ask Mark. And if he wants me to pay him for that,

1179
01:13:51,580 --> 01:13:54,994
I wouldn't mind it. But I want a version of that

1180
01:13:54,994 --> 01:13:58,514
logo. So the logo is a blue chair with a blue Yeti on

1181
01:13:58,514 --> 01:14:01,690
fire, and then it says podcast hot seat above it. I'm gonna see if he

1182
01:14:01,690 --> 01:14:05,449
can give me a copy without podcast hot seat, and then I'll have

1183
01:14:05,449 --> 01:14:08,570
just that big blank space at the top where I can put I can make

1184
01:14:08,570 --> 01:14:12,315
episodic artwork with that. Oh, yeah. And I was like, that might be cool.

1185
01:14:12,315 --> 01:14:15,594
Or maybe just a maybe I'll have, the burn. I don't know. I have to

1186
01:14:15,594 --> 01:14:17,835
talk to him about it, but I need to talk to him anyway because they

1187
01:14:17,835 --> 01:14:21,679
want him to come on the your podcast website show. And then

1188
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,400
Just don't fit on that seat. That would be a That would be bad. A

1189
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,165
burning, weary Eddie. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. So SP says,

1190
01:14:29,165 --> 01:14:32,385
are you, going to redo episode 0?

1191
01:14:32,844 --> 01:14:36,430
Yeah. I'm treating this like a whole new show, and I'm gonna put I need

1192
01:14:36,430 --> 01:14:40,110
to put out an episode on the podcast rodeo show that says, hey. The

1193
01:14:40,110 --> 01:14:43,410
website's not going down. The content's gonna be here,

1194
01:14:43,705 --> 01:14:47,244
but I'm going to redirect. Like, when you wake up tomorrow,

1195
01:14:48,025 --> 01:14:51,625
podcast rodeo show is gonna look like podcast hot seat, and there's one

1196
01:14:51,625 --> 01:14:54,890
episode in it right now. So if you wanna listen to the stuff, you have

1197
01:14:54,890 --> 01:14:58,090
to go to the website. And I'm gonna leave that there for a month, and

1198
01:14:58,090 --> 01:15:01,725
then I will turn off the redirect. So if

1199
01:15:01,805 --> 01:15:05,325
people want to listen to the old episodes, they can do it in their phone.

1200
01:15:05,325 --> 01:15:09,085
So it's it's a lot of Dave playing with stuff in this little move.

1201
01:15:09,085 --> 01:15:12,870
It's like because somebody said, well, what if nobody signs up? Maybe nobody pays

1202
01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:16,710
for a hot seat. I'm like, then, you know, the podcast rodeo show was

1203
01:15:16,710 --> 01:15:19,805
was gonna go away one way or another. And I was like, it was gonna

1204
01:15:19,805 --> 01:15:22,925
be either pay me to do it or not, and maybe they'll both be this

1205
01:15:22,925 --> 01:15:25,645
way. But it was just like, nah. Just not getting what I want out of

1206
01:15:25,645 --> 01:15:29,389
it. And people change, life change, You know, changes.

1207
01:15:29,389 --> 01:15:32,770
Different things like that. So and coach Dave says, as a former

1208
01:15:32,830 --> 01:15:36,590
firefighter that cover art with the flaming microphone on the couch says

1209
01:15:36,590 --> 01:15:40,265
hydrogen. Wow. Cyanide? Gas to me.

1210
01:15:40,265 --> 01:15:44,105
Yep. Those foam seats are really bad when they burn. Well, I'll have

1211
01:15:44,105 --> 01:15:47,620
to keep that, in mind. John says, if you quit the

1212
01:15:47,620 --> 01:15:51,380
podcast rodeo show, I was going to start podcast crimes. I'd be

1213
01:15:51,380 --> 01:15:55,000
good. In fact, I might put out an episode because I realized I told everybody

1214
01:15:55,060 --> 01:15:58,825
going, hey. Podcast hot seat will be available

1215
01:15:59,285 --> 01:16:02,645
June 1st. Well, that's today. Then it is. You can hear my episode where I

1216
01:16:02,645 --> 01:16:06,120
explain how Kim from, Kim Nula from

1217
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,720
the Podcaster's Voice podcast let me know that I

1218
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,244
had done some changing of the description for the school of

1219
01:16:13,244 --> 01:16:16,945
podcasting, and I had a typo in the title of my show.

1220
01:16:17,405 --> 01:16:21,090
And she was lucky enough to to well, I'm lucky. She was nice enough

1221
01:16:21,250 --> 01:16:24,690
to say, hey, Dave. Do you do you know you misspelled monetize? And I'm like,

1222
01:16:24,690 --> 01:16:28,449
no. And I look over plan launch monetize. And I was like, oh, you gotta

1223
01:16:28,449 --> 01:16:32,275
be kidding me. And then, Rich Graham let me know that

1224
01:16:32,275 --> 01:16:36,034
in the your podcast website like, the 3rd

1225
01:16:36,034 --> 01:16:39,830
time I referred to, there's a guy that was talking about designing

1226
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:43,670
websites. And the 3rd time I mentioned his website, I said it wrong. So

1227
01:16:43,670 --> 01:16:47,315
it's my whole point is like, hey, Sometimes you need a second set of eyes

1228
01:16:47,315 --> 01:16:51,155
to look at this stuff, and, you know, we catch stuff. I see things

1229
01:16:51,155 --> 01:16:54,969
all the time that I'm like, you know, like the the guy we're talking about

1230
01:16:54,969 --> 01:16:58,570
at the beginning of the show. All he had was a landing page. And I

1231
01:16:58,570 --> 01:17:02,405
go, that's great if you're just selling one product. But now

1232
01:17:02,405 --> 01:17:06,244
you're gonna be doing a podcast. You need a way to contact you. You

1233
01:17:06,244 --> 01:17:09,810
know, there's a lot of really low hanging fruit that sometimes you just don't

1234
01:17:09,810 --> 01:17:13,190
know what you don't know and you end up doing stuff. So,

1235
01:17:13,570 --> 01:17:17,409
yes. Is the podcast Hot Seat going to be value for value? Yes. And

1236
01:17:17,409 --> 01:17:21,255
that's something I was I'll be interesting to see

1237
01:17:21,795 --> 01:17:25,610
because and it's funny because Adam Curry called this.

1238
01:17:25,929 --> 01:17:29,770
There's a tool called alby, alby. It's at

1239
01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:33,290
get alby.com. And that was the easy way to go and get a

1240
01:17:33,290 --> 01:17:37,075
wallet. And then it was, you know, everybody can send

1241
01:17:37,075 --> 01:17:40,595
stuff there and it's it was all went through Albie. Well, the whole point of

1242
01:17:40,595 --> 01:17:43,970
podcasting 2.0 is to decentralize it.

1243
01:17:43,970 --> 01:17:47,810
And right in the middle of this whole thing, we

1244
01:17:47,810 --> 01:17:51,495
centralized our payment system through this website who just

1245
01:17:51,495 --> 01:17:55,335
went, Yeah, we're not going to do this anymore. I haven't I have no

1246
01:17:55,335 --> 01:17:59,095
official. I haven't read any. They're kind of bad about communicating this. But

1247
01:17:59,095 --> 01:18:02,850
I heard on the podcasting 2.0 show that they're getting

1248
01:18:02,850 --> 01:18:06,690
out of that business because here's a novel idea. Guess how much they charge

1249
01:18:06,690 --> 01:18:10,315
for that, Jim? 0. Yes. And the last time I checked,

1250
01:18:11,335 --> 01:18:14,615
free is not a good business model. And I'm like, guys, shouldn't you be taking

1251
01:18:14,615 --> 01:18:18,040
a cut of some of the money that's going in and out? And why they

1252
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,560
didn't? I don't know. I would've given them a, you know, whatever,

1253
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,055
5% split or something. But so I'm I

1254
01:18:25,055 --> 01:18:28,835
am speaking uninformed. I'm I've only heard this.

1255
01:18:29,055 --> 01:18:32,800
Haven't saw anything official yet. But that that for the record, that does

1256
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,560
not mean podcasting 2.0 is dead. In fact, the last episode, they're like,

1257
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,324
well, we're gonna take this now and build something that we should have back

1258
01:18:40,324 --> 01:18:44,164
then that's decentralized and makes it easy

1259
01:18:44,164 --> 01:18:47,920
to get a wallet and blah blah blah blah blah. So, yeah,

1260
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,680
the Albie is very bad at communication. They

1261
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,480
they they, like, they for a while, you had they you had to be on

1262
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:58,005
a wait list, and they didn't let anybody know. And I'm so I go go

1263
01:18:58,005 --> 01:19:00,645
over and sign up. And people are like, yeah. I'm on a wait list. I'm

1264
01:19:00,645 --> 01:19:04,290
like, what? So, you know, that's it. And Randy

1265
01:19:04,290 --> 01:19:07,970
says I can become the Simon Cowell of podcast reviewers. I was for a while.

1266
01:19:07,970 --> 01:19:11,455
If you listen to the early versions of the podcast rodeo show, it

1267
01:19:11,455 --> 01:19:15,075
was it was literally off the top of my head.

1268
01:19:15,135 --> 01:19:18,815
Gonna say it. Not gonna think about it. And then I I had

1269
01:19:18,815 --> 01:19:22,600
one person that basically said, you heard me. And I was like,

1270
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,800
all right, we need to soften this up a little bit. That's not me. And

1271
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,295
I didn't think it was in line with the the fun, happy,

1272
01:19:29,594 --> 01:19:33,355
helpful podcast coach just smashed my ego and

1273
01:19:33,355 --> 01:19:37,054
told me I was a turd that couldn't be polished. I'm like, that's not good.

1274
01:19:37,220 --> 01:19:40,760
So I I had to soften it up a little bit. So

1275
01:19:41,300 --> 01:19:44,365
that's, sounds like a great name for a day. Little brand. Little

1276
01:19:45,485 --> 01:19:48,545
The turd that can't be polished? The the unpolishable

1277
01:19:48,845 --> 01:19:52,580
turd. So There you go. Gotta get that on a t shirt. You go.

1278
01:19:53,140 --> 01:19:56,500
Yeah. It was a little brand confusion. We talked about that. Yeah. I've said that

1279
01:19:56,500 --> 01:20:00,340
to you before. So Yeah. That's, that's what we're

1280
01:20:00,340 --> 01:20:03,784
doing. So and then Chris says, what are we going to do with

1281
01:20:03,784 --> 01:20:07,324
our 4,354,234 satoshis,

1282
01:20:08,025 --> 01:20:11,740
which is, like, you know, whatever, a dollar 10, something like that.

1283
01:20:11,820 --> 01:20:15,340
Yeah. It'll be interesting to see. But there is some We'll move

1284
01:20:15,340 --> 01:20:18,640
them. You should be able to move them. If it's a true crypto wallet,

1285
01:20:19,105 --> 01:20:22,784
you should be able to move those Satoshis to another, to another crypto

1286
01:20:22,784 --> 01:20:26,545
wallet. Right? Send them. But meanwhile, that I'm not a fan of

1287
01:20:26,545 --> 01:20:30,210
this. I say this all, this is starting

1288
01:20:30,210 --> 01:20:33,750
to rear its ugly head now. And you're like, Yeah,

1289
01:20:34,449 --> 01:20:38,275
maybe Bitcoin wasn't the best or crypto. Yeah. I get it.

1290
01:20:38,275 --> 01:20:41,635
I get it. But you're you're gonna have problems like this because the the technology

1291
01:20:41,635 --> 01:20:45,270
is still so new. Well, the the fun thing was, again, James

1292
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:48,890
Cridlin, who? Yes. James Cridlin, Pod News Pod News Weekly,

1293
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:53,030
the same one where he talked about Spotify. They interviewed the head of Pocket

1294
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:56,725
Cast, which in in the worlds of independent apps,

1295
01:20:57,425 --> 01:21:00,645
it's been around forever. It's owned by WordPress, and they

1296
01:21:01,025 --> 01:21:04,630
adapted chapters and transcripts to that. And there's this

1297
01:21:04,630 --> 01:21:08,390
cool feature called Podroll. And if you

1298
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:11,989
are around for Myspace where you could recommend, you know, your 8

1299
01:21:11,989 --> 01:21:15,645
friends, well, now you can recommend as many people as you want. And what I

1300
01:21:15,645 --> 01:21:19,185
love about that feature, once it gets implemented by enough people,

1301
01:21:19,485 --> 01:21:23,190
is they'll be able to make charts. Like here are the top 10 most

1302
01:21:23,190 --> 01:21:26,869
recommended podcasts. Now I also know that it'll take about

1303
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:30,855
if we start now and done. Okay. That's

1304
01:21:30,855 --> 01:21:34,695
how long it's gonna take for people to sell those spots because, you know, marketers

1305
01:21:34,695 --> 01:21:37,415
will come in and like, hey, you could be my top eight. It's only $50

1306
01:21:37,415 --> 01:21:41,130
a month. So that'll be fun. But when more people

1307
01:21:41,210 --> 01:21:44,650
I can know Buzzsprout right now has that in it. So when more media host

1308
01:21:44,650 --> 01:21:48,355
start to do that, then more apps will start to show this

1309
01:21:48,355 --> 01:21:51,795
whole pod roll thing. And then that's gonna be maybe

1310
01:21:51,795 --> 01:21:55,635
the the discoverability problem will be partly solved. So

1311
01:21:55,635 --> 01:21:59,389
I'll be interested to see that. And if your media host doesn't do anything with

1312
01:21:59,389 --> 01:22:03,230
podcasting 2.0, it's usually support at whoever your media

1313
01:22:03,230 --> 01:22:07,075
host is and say, hey. Why aren't you supporting 2 point o? Because if you

1314
01:22:07,075 --> 01:22:10,355
don't complain about it, they're not gonna do it, which is why I'm now telling

1315
01:22:10,355 --> 01:22:14,150
people all the time. Go bug your media host. Don't flame out

1316
01:22:14,150 --> 01:22:17,910
on Twitter. Email their support from you showing you that

1317
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:21,430
whole 9 yards. Coach Dave said, I still like my Thrivecart solution for

1318
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:25,135
donations. Yep. I embed a simple cart with

1319
01:22:25,135 --> 01:22:28,815
choose your own amount option, and they pay via credit and pay

1320
01:22:28,815 --> 01:22:32,640
the the credit card fee. That's pretty cool. I have Thrive card. I'm using it

1321
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,160
for podcast hot seat. Coach Dave says crypto was

1322
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,655
doomed. We're doomed. Our players that have the

1323
01:22:39,655 --> 01:22:43,335
monopoly and will make rules will always find a way to absorb it

1324
01:22:43,335 --> 01:22:47,080
like the borg. I don't know what a borg is. They'll my

1325
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,680
whole thing is as much as crypto can You know? Can get I'm

1326
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,380
waiting for I've heard rumors it's gonna be called the eagle,

1327
01:22:54,975 --> 01:22:58,415
but eventually the US is gonna come up with some sort of digital

1328
01:22:58,415 --> 01:23:02,130
coin is what I hear. I don't know if it's true or not, but if

1329
01:23:02,130 --> 01:23:05,590
they do, whatever is the hot crypto thing of the day

1330
01:23:07,010 --> 01:23:10,610
is maybe gonna get squashed like a bug. We'll see. It's it's the whole thing.

1331
01:23:10,610 --> 01:23:14,434
We could get into whole crypto conversation, but money is

1332
01:23:14,434 --> 01:23:18,189
only valuable because we say it's valuable. And so that's

1333
01:23:18,189 --> 01:23:21,700
the Faith. Yeah. So Faith, faith and

1334
01:23:21,700 --> 01:23:25,460
credit. Faith and credit are two words that have never been more

1335
01:23:25,460 --> 01:23:28,675
true than they are right now when you think about currency. You know, when you

1336
01:23:28,675 --> 01:23:32,035
think especially US currency. So, you know, you, you know,

1337
01:23:32,035 --> 01:23:35,555
faith and credit. Full, they say. Full faith and credit.

1338
01:23:35,555 --> 01:23:39,150
Jodi's using Buy Me A Coffee. I need to dig into

1339
01:23:39,449 --> 01:23:42,489
that system. I use it, you know, on occasion if somebody's like, hey. Can I

1340
01:23:42,489 --> 01:23:45,870
give you some money? Mike, here. What I don't get

1341
01:23:46,355 --> 01:23:49,875
is how they make money. Like, when I look at it, I don't see where

1342
01:23:49,875 --> 01:23:53,395
they're taking any fees. There's no monthly fee, and I'm like, wait.

1343
01:23:53,395 --> 01:23:56,800
How? What? So that's always kind of a head scratcher

1344
01:23:57,100 --> 01:24:00,780
with that one, but I'll take it. You know? And then, yeah, Dan

1345
01:24:00,780 --> 01:24:04,560
says isn't basically money, basically a digital coin now? Yeah. I

1346
01:24:05,535 --> 01:24:09,135
I haven't touched, like, cash in a very long time. If I go to

1347
01:24:09,135 --> 01:24:12,815
Luigi's Pizza, they now have a thing because they don't take credit cards. And I'm

1348
01:24:12,815 --> 01:24:15,929
like, what? But you have to go in the back. They have this little machine,

1349
01:24:16,230 --> 01:24:20,070
and you get a receipt that you've taken out money, and you give them the

1350
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:23,655
read. It's a weird wonky way to to get that

1351
01:24:23,655 --> 01:24:26,955
done. But Well, the difference though, crypto is

1352
01:24:27,175 --> 01:24:31,015
is trackable Yeah. And US currency

1353
01:24:31,015 --> 01:24:34,840
is not. I mean, basically. And then there's a

1354
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,219
limit on crypto. And there's,

1355
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,145
there's no such thing as a limit to U. S. Currency. I mean, we, they

1356
01:24:42,145 --> 01:24:45,445
just keep selling more bonds and

1357
01:24:45,905 --> 01:24:49,345
then issue more Yeah, I mean, yes,

1358
01:24:49,345 --> 01:24:52,990
it's, from, from our standpoint, yes, it's digital, because our

1359
01:24:52,990 --> 01:24:56,350
banking is all digital now, and nobody uses using a credit card to swipe it

1360
01:24:56,350 --> 01:25:00,135
and some of those other kinds of things. So from that standpoint,

1361
01:25:00,195 --> 01:25:03,395
yes. Did you Dan, I know what you mean. I know what you mean on

1362
01:25:03,395 --> 01:25:06,135
that. But there is a big difference between the way

1363
01:25:06,820 --> 01:25:10,420
currencies work and the way crypto works. So that's, that is a

1364
01:25:10,420 --> 01:25:14,099
big, there's a big difference. Yeah. Here's, speaking of, of

1365
01:25:14,099 --> 01:25:17,475
Mark, we mentioned him earlier. This is, congressional dish.com,

1366
01:25:18,015 --> 01:25:21,775
the lovely and talented John Briney. If you're an American, you should be listening to

1367
01:25:21,775 --> 01:25:24,995
the show. It's it's just her last couple episodes have been

1368
01:25:25,450 --> 01:25:29,130
just crazy. And I I point this out because she has a

1369
01:25:29,130 --> 01:25:32,910
support page. And if I remember, yeah, if you go down here,

1370
01:25:33,195 --> 01:25:36,875
you can set a check or money order. You can do PayPal. You can join

1371
01:25:36,875 --> 01:25:39,775
her Patreon. Yeah. You can use Zelle.

1372
01:25:40,530 --> 01:25:44,369
Yeah. Exactly. I used I used to send her a check. I had my

1373
01:25:44,530 --> 01:25:48,175
my bank would send a check because there's no fees for that.

1374
01:25:48,494 --> 01:25:52,335
So but I've never heard of Popmoney. I've heard of Venmo, Cash

1375
01:25:52,335 --> 01:25:56,034
App. You can give her Bitcoin. You can send her Ethereum.

1376
01:25:56,610 --> 01:26:00,370
You can make a Litecoin donation, or you can buy a

1377
01:26:00,370 --> 01:26:03,750
merch. And I have a shirt of hers. I I really it's a great show.

1378
01:26:04,145 --> 01:26:07,745
And so and again, the website by the 1 and only Mark over at

1379
01:26:07,745 --> 01:26:11,505
podcast branding. But so that's what she does. She basically has it

1380
01:26:11,505 --> 01:26:15,150
all there. So it's, you know, you could do

1381
01:26:15,150 --> 01:26:18,270
Venmo. You just gotta have stuff like that. I'm not sure because Venmo, don't you

1382
01:26:18,270 --> 01:26:22,025
have to send it to their phone number? That would be a little U.

1383
01:26:22,405 --> 01:26:26,165
S. Only. No, you find them. You can find, you, you can

1384
01:26:26,165 --> 01:26:29,590
find them in the app, and then you verify it with a phone number. You

1385
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:32,230
can find them with a phone number. You could give somebody your phone number, and

1386
01:26:32,230 --> 01:26:35,850
they find you. But you have a, you know, you have a username

1387
01:26:36,565 --> 01:26:39,925
in, in Venmo. And you can set up Venmo, but it's U. S.

1388
01:26:39,925 --> 01:26:43,605
Only. They're talking a little bit about that in chat. It is U. S.

1389
01:26:43,605 --> 01:26:47,210
Only. And they're talking about doing fees too. Like that, this is

1390
01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:51,670
the fee, the, you know, this, we always start free. I was,

1391
01:26:51,670 --> 01:26:55,190
I got a notice from Otter that they're going to change their pricing structure. They'd

1392
01:26:55,190 --> 01:26:58,785
already done it once, and they're getting ready to do another round. And I think

1393
01:26:58,785 --> 01:27:02,465
it's gonna force me to go pro. And I think I'm gonna go from

1394
01:27:02,465 --> 01:27:06,260
$10 to whatever. Now, and now that

1395
01:27:06,260 --> 01:27:10,020
StreamYard is owned by Bending Spoons or whatever it

1396
01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:13,835
is, you got to kind of wonder, you know, I'm on a $10

1397
01:27:14,295 --> 01:27:18,055
for life. I know it's not really for life,

1398
01:27:18,055 --> 01:27:21,900
right, whatever. At some point, I think that's, that's unsustainable. They're

1399
01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:25,580
gonna start looking at those plans. Well, Rob Greenlee, on the new media

1400
01:27:25,580 --> 01:27:29,395
show, said that, like, there's a lot of people because they

1401
01:27:29,395 --> 01:27:33,235
were owned by Hopin. I think it was. Yeah. And either and

1402
01:27:33,235 --> 01:27:36,770
either Hopin employees or StreamYard

1403
01:27:36,830 --> 01:27:40,449
people, a lot of them are gone. In fact, he said the founders,

1404
01:27:41,310 --> 01:27:44,350
when the 2 guys that started streaming or when they found it, it was up

1405
01:27:44,350 --> 01:27:48,155
for sale and they tried to buy it back and

1406
01:27:48,155 --> 01:27:51,995
they just couldn't do it. And so now some bending spoons thing and

1407
01:27:51,995 --> 01:27:55,610
it's like which is a company that owns a they buy a lot of apps

1408
01:27:55,610 --> 01:27:59,370
and such. So it's not, you know, it's not a horrible

1409
01:27:59,370 --> 01:28:02,994
thing, but we're all kind of like, they're not really known

1410
01:28:02,994 --> 01:28:06,375
for really taking things to the next level. So

1411
01:28:07,155 --> 01:28:10,935
The the business model there is buy the app and then jack up the prices.

1412
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:15,120
That's, that's their business model. So, you know, it's gonna be,

1413
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,660
you know, we saw, we've seen this, like this has happened before.

1414
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,375
LogMeIn was one of those that had, right,

1415
01:28:22,375 --> 01:28:25,895
had this in, and then all of a sudden, you know, it's

1416
01:28:25,895 --> 01:28:29,520
like, Hey, you're now $39.99 a month. You were

1417
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,360
paying $5, you know. So I would, if you're

1418
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,835
a StreamYard user, I would keep your eyes and

1419
01:28:36,835 --> 01:28:40,515
ears open for those, for that kind of communication. And I

1420
01:28:40,515 --> 01:28:44,355
just, Otter just contacted me yesterday. I need to read through that email.

1421
01:28:44,355 --> 01:28:47,770
And it's, it was, Hey, we, we put you

1422
01:28:47,770 --> 01:28:51,130
in a group for a year. That

1423
01:28:51,130 --> 01:28:54,969
basically, we grandfathered you in

1424
01:28:54,969 --> 01:28:58,715
for a year. That year's up in July. Yeah. Because

1425
01:28:58,715 --> 01:29:02,335
it's like I forget what it used to be, but it was considerably

1426
01:29:02,555 --> 01:29:06,210
more. Now to their credit, they've added a lot of really cool It used to

1427
01:29:06,210 --> 01:29:09,890
be just a transcription service, but, yeah, that was one of the people that said

1428
01:29:09,890 --> 01:29:13,705
you need to update your credit card. And I'm like, do I wanna do

1429
01:29:13,705 --> 01:29:16,585
this? Because that means and I need to figure out when they're gonna charge me

1430
01:29:16,585 --> 01:29:20,239
because that would be one I'll have to think about. I use

1431
01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:24,000
Otter because I have a great deal on it and stuff like that. But

1432
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,735
I'm like, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Jeff

1433
01:29:27,735 --> 01:29:31,574
c says when Bending Spoons bought Evernote, which again, what did they

1434
01:29:31,574 --> 01:29:35,175
do? They jacked up the price. That's why I went to Notejoy and Jeff went

1435
01:29:35,175 --> 01:29:38,670
to Notion. So, yeah, let's

1436
01:29:38,670 --> 01:29:42,190
see. Log in and Bo. Oh, let's

1437
01:29:42,190 --> 01:29:45,925
see. Basically, last month, they bought last month. Yeah. And then Logged

1438
01:29:45,925 --> 01:29:49,605
me and bought And another one did the same. Oh, and Last pass

1439
01:29:49,605 --> 01:29:52,745
has been a mess. Yeah. They that is the That's why I love

1440
01:29:53,765 --> 01:29:57,160
1 password. So but, man, that went quick.

1441
01:29:57,460 --> 01:29:59,640
Jim, what is coming up on HomeGadgetGeeks?

1442
01:30:01,220 --> 01:30:04,555
Yeah. We, Rich Hay, Hay, I mentioned a little bit earlier, Rich Hay is on,

1443
01:30:04,555 --> 01:30:08,155
and we catch up with Rich a little bit. We looked at these new, this

1444
01:30:08,155 --> 01:30:11,949
new line of digital telescopes that you do some

1445
01:30:11,949 --> 01:30:15,570
amazing things all from the comfort of your home. You set this up,

1446
01:30:15,949 --> 01:30:19,364
log into the app on your phone, it connects via Wi Fi, and they

1447
01:30:19,364 --> 01:30:23,204
do some amazing things. I had no idea. I like to

1448
01:30:23,204 --> 01:30:26,164
look at the stars, but I'm, I don't like it when it's cold outside. You

1449
01:30:26,164 --> 01:30:29,780
can all do this from the comfort of your home. So, it's available right

1450
01:30:29,780 --> 01:30:31,160
now. Check it out. Homegadgetgeeks.com.

1451
01:30:33,540 --> 01:30:37,224
And on this week, I'm interviewing Matt Cundell who does

1452
01:30:37,224 --> 01:30:40,585
the Sound Off podcast. He just went over 400 episodes.

1453
01:30:40,585 --> 01:30:44,425
And when I was on his show, I'm like, any lessons from those 400? He

1454
01:30:44,425 --> 01:30:48,190
goes, oh, absolutely. And so that's coming up. And then the week

1455
01:30:48,190 --> 01:30:51,790
after that, I'm doing an episode about really what makes

1456
01:30:51,790 --> 01:30:55,605
good content, what does Google think is good content, and

1457
01:30:55,605 --> 01:30:59,445
then I just got a bunch of different opinions on from different people and what

1458
01:30:59,445 --> 01:31:03,183
they feel is good content. So that's what's coming on the school of

1459
01:31:03,183 --> 01:31:06,459
podcasting.com. Thanks to, the chat room. Thanks to Dan,

1460
01:31:06,786 --> 01:31:10,534
from based on a true story podcast dot com and Mark

1461
01:31:10,534 --> 01:31:13,895
over at podcastbranding.co. And, of course, this show is brought to you

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by the school of podcasting.com. Use the coupon code coach when

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you sign up for either a monthly or yearly subscription. Or

1464
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:25,320
if you want to be an awesome supporter, that's like, what, 15 calls to

1465
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,465
action I've done now. So yeah. Oh, I was thanking people. Those were calls to

1466
01:31:28,465 --> 01:31:31,585
action. Just do one of them. Can we say Just do one of them. Are

1467
01:31:31,585 --> 01:31:35,345
we gonna be rebels and say, like, subscribe, and ring the bell? For

1468
01:31:35,345 --> 01:31:38,660
sure. Yeah. Like and subscribe. Like

1469
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,719
and subscribe. I was waiting for subscribe. I was waiting for the

1470
01:31:42,719 --> 01:31:46,560
the the, the flames of hell to shoot up behind you,

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01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,945
but we'll see you next week with another episode of Ask the Podcast

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Coach. Take care, everybody. Have a good weekend.

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